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Baptist doctrinal statement

Discussion in 'Baptists' started by thankfulttt, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. thankfulttt

    thankfulttt Member

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    Does anyone know why the 1689 Baptist Doctrinal Statement on end times was abandoned?
     
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  2. SaintJoeNow

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    It was not abandoned. Calvinism and the London Baptist Confession of 1689 | Gospel-Centered Musings

    Calvinism and the London Baptist Confession of 1689
    Posted: August 7, 2012 | Author: Michael Dewalt | Filed under: Baptist, Calvinism | Tags: Baptist, Confession, London Baptist, SBC, Southern Baptist |2 Comments
    The 2nd London Baptist Confession of 1689
    During the 17-century there were a number of issues in England that help bring about the change from the 1st 1644 LBC to the 2nd 1689 LBC, but more so that the Baptist and Presbyterians would be closer in work and deed than further a part like that we see in America today. A number of issues came about that brought the Second London Baptist Confession in it entirety, and in its likeness of its earlier cousin the Westminster Confession of Faith.
    1.1661 – The Episcopalians had recaptured the machinery and endowments of the Church of England and they were bent on achieving uniformity in England, and not accepting Presbyterians, nor the WCF-1646.
    2.1661 -1665 – A series of coercive acts which form the Clarendon Code were put into act effect to suppress the dissant, namely Presbyterians, but yet effecting Baptist as well, and other Congregationalists throughout England.
    3.1672 – King Charles favored the restoration of Roman Catholicism and issued a Declaration of Indulgence which suspended all penal laws of an ecclesiastical nature against all Protestant dissenters, Presbyterian and Baptist.
    4.1673 – England Parliament passed the Test Act which barred non-conformist from all military and civil offices.

    These four key issues brought the Particular Baptist of London to show their agreement with Presbyterians and other Congregationalists through England by making the Westminster Confession their basis of a new (2nd) confession of their own. Thus the London Baptist purpose has been clearly stated,


    Our (Baptist) hearty agreement with them (Presbyterians) in that wholesome protestant doctrine, which, with so clear evidence of Scriptures they have asserted.”

    One of the most evident “Presbyterian-friendly” areas the authors saw fit to change in the 1689 can be found in chapter 30 on The Lord’s Supper, that it is not restricted to scripturally baptized people, as in the 1644-LBC. The assembly writing the 2nd London Baptist Confession saw fit to work with the Presbyterians, for the sake of Protestantism during their time. While there are differences between the London baptist Confession and Westminster Confession of Faith (chapters 19-23), sections belittle some Presbyterians might add (chapter 7 & 25 ), and chapters done better by the Baptists (chapter 17), in all they often have more similarities in purpose than difference, thus showing the close relationship during the time of the Protestant Reformation.

    Presbyterians at times make the remark that London Baptist copied their confession. While layout and words are almost identical at times (chapters 1, 9, 16, & 32) there are additions, differences, and sections condensed throughout the whole of the London Baptist Confession of 1689. If you do not agree, you can take a look at a Tabular Comparison of the WCF & 2nd-LBC for yourself.

    The Particular Baptist and Calvinism
    The London Baptist used the outline of the Westminster for their 1689, this base was far more complete and well laid out than their earlier confession of 1644. Being that it provided a well established order to their confession, changes had to be made in the 1689. There are a number of differences between the London Baptist Confession of 1644 and 1689. Sections were added to the 1689 on the areas of marriage, the Scriptures, the Sabbath, and a stronger emphasis on Calvinism than its earlier 1644 confession. This is most evident in the difference of verbiage between the 1644 and 1689 London Confessions dealing with what is called “Calvinistic” doctrines.



    Read more at the link above, the Southern Baptist Church organization or whatever you call their agreement is Calvinistic with it's roots in the 1689 London Baptist Confession
     
  3. thankfulttt

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    Perhaps we have a misunderstanding here. I was referring to the change between the 1869 Doctrinal Statement, as in regards to today's doctrinal statement regarding chapter 31 on end times.
     
  4. SaintJoeNow

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    It's because the Calvinistic Baptists and the Seventh Day Adventist Baptists are at odds and there are doctrinal heresies festering so they put a bandage on it by updating the "confession of faith". The 1689 Confession of faith is sectarian and designed to accommodate sects with doctrinal disagreements.
    Those accommodations were seeds which grew into stronger divisions in sects which upheld the 1689 Confession of faith, so that confession had to be updated in order to try to maintain unity in the ranks.

    I reject the 1689 Confession of Faith entirely as heretical because of the Calvinistic and Seventh Day Adventist doctrines it incorporates.
     
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