Baptism as Testimony

[msortwell]

A highly respected seminary includes the following regarding its positionon baptism.

"Christian Baptism . . . is the solemn and beautiful testimony of a believer showing forth his faith in the crucified, buried, and risen Savior, and his union with Him in death to sin and resurrection to a new life. It is also a sign of fellowship and identification with the visible Body of Christ."

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

 

[RileyG]

Perhaps in the book of Acts or Jesus' own Baptism?

 

[msortwell]

Perhaps in the book of Acts or Jesus' own Baptism?

Certainly, the Father used the time of Jesus' baptism as His opportunity to witness of His Son. But the baptism itself was not the instrument of witness. Many claim the rite of baptism itself functions as a witness of faith of the baptized.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

A highly respected seminary includes the following regarding its positionon baptism.

"Christian Baptism . . . is the solemn and beautiful testimony of a believer showing forth his faith in the crucified, buried, and risen Savior, and his union with Him in death to sin and resurrection to a new life. It is also a sign of fellowship and identification with the visible Body of Christ."

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

You'll not find it. Baptism to the first generations of Christians was way more than just some symbolic thing. In Romans 6 Paul (the Apostle of grace) said we are buried by baptism into Christ. In Colossians 2 he writes that we are spiritually circumcised in baptism, the same process Moses, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel prophesied of, both Peter and Paul wrote that baptism saves us (not without faith of course). Jesus said twice that baptism was a vital part of salvation, John 3:3-5, Mark 16:16.

 

[Tolworth John]

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

As has been already said there isn't any.
Try using biblegateway's search function or just google it.

If thinking of going to theological college, think again as your own bible knowledge should have answered this question

 

[HTacianas]

A highly respected seminary includes the following regarding its positionon baptism.

"Christian Baptism . . . is the solemn and beautiful testimony of a believer showing forth his faith in the crucified, buried, and risen Savior, and his union with Him in death to sin and resurrection to a new life. It is also a sign of fellowship and identification with the visible Body of Christ."

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

You are not going to find one because one doesn't exist. Baptism is not a "display of faith", neither is it an outward sign of anything, or any of the multitude of other descriptions of it. The sign of faith, the public display of faith, etc., is the confession of faith, "I believe...". It is through baptism that we receive forgiveness of previous sins, see Acts 2:38:

Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

While it is through baptism that we share in the death and resurrection of Christ, it is not merely an "outward display of faith". It serves a particular purpose.

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

You'll not find it.

ByTheSpirit is quite right in regards to a credobaptist definition of baptism.
Here are some definitions of baptism I have found on the internet regarding a Baptist definition of baptism:

• Baptism is an outward sign of an inward change.
• A public proclamation and a testimony of God’s work in a believer’s life.
• Baptism is a choice that one needs to make for him/herself as part of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
• It is an act of obedience and discipleship.

In examining the Biblical text, we find no definition of this type anywhere.

This is not to say, the Sacraments are not a public testimony of a believers faith…they are! But the Baptists and American Evangelicals got the wrong Sacrament! It is the other Sacrament.

I Cor 11:26 "For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."

Scripture clearly states it is in the Lord's Supper, we testify publicly to our faith. The NT doesn't speak of baptism in this way. No where does baptism equate to a public testimony of ones faith.

The reason why a believers public proclamation is in the Lord's Supper and not in baptism is simple. In partaking of the Holy Communion a believer is active, and in baptism the believer is passive. No Christian baptizes himself. Never.

Receiving the Lord’s Supper is the most public act of worship we do on Sunday. We are active in receiving the Lord’s supper as Jesus says, “Take eat” and “Drink.” And yet we are passive in the its blessings.

In baptism, we are passive. We never baptize ourselves. Someone else baptizes us. Even the blessing we get in baptism are passively given to us…Romans 6 says we are united with Christ death burial and resurrection. We don’t unite ourselves to his event, God does. We are passive. God is active.

And yet even those that baptize us are passive because ministers are seen as instruments who act in the place and at the command of Christ when they administer the baptism. It is true as an adult on consents to be baptized, but you are not active in baptism.

However, a baptism itself (the application of water, with accompanying words) is a statement by God (through the church) to and about the person being baptized, not a statement by that person.

In Baptism God is doing; we are receiving. Baptism is neither the work of the one being baptized nor of the man baptizing, but rather it is solely the work of God. This work of God is done through human hands.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

ByTheSpirit is quite right in regards to a credobaptist definition of baptism.
Here are some definitions of baptism I have found on the internet regarding a Baptist definition of baptism:

• Baptism is an outward sign of an inward change.
• A public proclamation and a testimony of God’s work in a believer’s life.
• Baptism is a choice that one needs to make for him/herself as part of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
• It is an act of obedience and discipleship.

In examining the Biblical text, we find no definition of this type anywhere.

This is not to say, the Sacraments are not a public testimony of a believers faith…they are! But the Baptists and American Evangelicals got the wrong Sacrament! It is the other Sacrament.

I Cor 11:26 "For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."

Scripture clearly states it is in the Lord's Supper, we testify publicly to our faith. The NT doesn't speak of baptism in this way. No where does baptism equate to a public testimony of ones faith.

The reason why a believers public proclamation is in the Lord's Supper and not in baptism is simple. In partaking of the Holy Communion a believer is active, and in baptism the believer is passive. No Christian baptizes himself. Never.

Receiving the Lord’s Supper is the most public act of worship we do on Sunday. We are active in receiving the Lord’s supper as Jesus says, “Take eat” and “Drink.” And yet we are passive in the its blessings.

In baptism, we are passive. We never baptize ourselves. Someone else baptizes us. Even the blessing we get in baptism are passively given to us…Romans 6 says we are united with Christ death burial and resurrection. We don’t unite ourselves to his event, God does. We are passive. God is active.

And yet even those that baptize us are passive because ministers are seen as instruments who act in the place and at the command of Christ when they administer the baptism. It is true as an adult on consents to be baptized, but you are not active in baptism.

However, a baptism itself (the application of water, with accompanying words) is a statement by God (through the church) to and about the person being baptized, not a statement by that person.

In Baptism God is doing; we are receiving. Baptism is neither the work of the one being baptized nor of the man baptizing, but rather it is solely the work of God. This work of God is done through human hands.

I really appreciate and like your explanation here of baptism. A repentant convert submits to the Lord, via the church, in the waters of baptism. By faith in the Lord, through the water they are given a new heart and new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19, 36:25-27; Jeremiah 24:7; Deuteronomy 30:6; John 3:3-5)

 

[msortwell]

As has been already said there isn't any.
Try using biblegateway's search function or just google it.

If thinking of going to theological college, think again as your own bible knowledge should have answered this question

My brother, you have no warrant to make any assumptions regarding my knowledge of the Scriptures.

 

[*LILAC]

My parents have this belief, too that their baptism is their salvation. There is no testimony on how Christ has worked through their life and/or continues to do so. They solely rely on the act of baptism. Explaining otherwise to them has proven fruitless.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

My parents have this belief, too that their baptism is their salvation. There is no testimony on how Christ has worked through their life and/or continues to do so. They solely rely on the act of baptism. Explaining otherwise to them has proven fruitless.

That's a tough spot to be in, especially when you care about them. I'd try to show them Jesus teaching on knowing a tree by it's fruit. Genuine salvation will result in good fruit being produced, we can have a discussion about what "good fruit" looks like, but people will know a child of God from a child of Satan by how they live. I think a lot of people on either side of this argument put their faith more in the act "that saved them" than the "one who saves". What I mean is people who pray a sinner's prayer can and largely do say that because they prayed a prayer they are saved, just as easily as someone who is baptized can say well I was baptized so I'm saved. Both are wrong, one more than the other, but still both are wrong. It is our faith, working through our action, that saves us. James 2:14-26

 

[Tolworth John]

My brother, you have no warrant to make any assumptions regarding my knowledge of the Scriptures.

A questio is asked that answering requires a basic biblical knowledge.
I think I have evry right to make that assumption.

If I have offended you I apologise.

 

[msortwell]

A questio is asked that answering requires a basic biblical knowledge.
I think I have evry right to make that assumption.

If I have offended you I apologise.

Thank you for the apology. But there are reasons other than ignorance that might motivate someone to ask others to share their perspective or answer a question.

1. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? (Matthew 5:46)

2. If you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? (Matthew 5:47)

3. Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? (Matthew 6:27)

4. Why do you worry about clothes? (Matthew 6:28)

5. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? (Matthew 7:3)

6. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? (Matthew 7:16)

7. Why are you so afraid? (Matthew 8:26)

8. Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? (Matthew 9:4)

9. Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? (Matthew 9:5)

10. How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? (Matthew 9:15)

11. Do you believe that I am able to do this? (Matthew 9:28)

12. What did you go out into the desert to see? (Matthew 11:7)

13. To what can I compare this generation? (Matthew 11:16)

14. If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? (Matthew 12:11)

15. How can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? (Matthew 12:29)

16. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? (Matthew 12:34)

17. Who is my mother, and who are my brothers? (Matthew 12:48)

18. Why did you doubt? (Matthew 14:31)

19. Why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? (Matthew 15:3)

20. How many loaves do you have? (Matthew 15:34)

21. Do you still not understand? (Matthew 16:9)

22. Who do people say the Son of Man is? (Matthew 16:13)

23. Who do you say I am? (Matthew 16:15)

24. What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? (Matthew 16:26)

25. How long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? (Matthew 17:17)

26. From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes–from their own sons or from others? (Matthew 17:25)

27. What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off? (Matthew 18:12)

28. Why do you ask me about what is good? (Matthew 19:17)

29. What is it you want? (Matthew 20:21)

30. Can you drink the cup I am going to drink? (Matthew 20:22)

31. What do you want me to do for you? (Matthew 20:32)

32. John’s baptism—where did it come from? Was it from heaven, or from men? (Matthew 21:25)

33. What do you think? (Matthew 21:28)

34. Have you never read in the Scriptures? (Matthew 21:42)

35. Why are you trying to trap me? (Matthew 22:18)

36. What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he? (Matthew 22:42)

37. Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? (Matthew 23:17-19)

38. How will you escape being condemned to hell? (Matthew 23:33)

39. Why are you bothering this woman? (Matthew 26:10)

40. Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour? (Matthew 26:40)

41. Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? (Matthew 26:53)

42. But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way? (Matthew 26:54)

43. Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? (Matthew 26:55)

44. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? (Matthew 27:46)

45. Why are you thinking these things? (Mark 2:8)

46. Do you bring in a lamp to put it under a bowl or a bed? Instead, don’t you put it on its stand? (Mark 4:21)

47. What shall we say the kingdom of God is like, or what parable shall we use to describe it? (Mark 4:30)

48. Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith? (Mark 4:40)

49. What is your name? (Mark 5:9)

50. Who touched my clothes? (Mark 5:30)

51. Why all this commotion and wailing? (Mark 5:39)

52. Are you so dull? (Mark 7:18)

53. Don’t you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him ‘unclean’? (Mark 7:18)

54. Why does this generation ask for a miraculous sign? I tell you the truth, no sign will be given to it. (Mark 8:12)

55. Why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened? Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? (Mark 8:17-18)

56. When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up? (Mark 8:19)

57. When I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up? (Mark 8:20)

58. Do you still not understand? (Mark 8:21)

59. [To the blind man] Do you see anything? (Mark 8:23)

60. Why then is it written that the Son of Man must suffer much and be rejected? (Mark 9:12)

61. What were you arguing about on the road? (Mark 9:33)

62. Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? (Mark 9:50)

63. What did Moses command you? (Mark 10:3)

64. Why do you call me good? (Mark 10:18)

65. What do you want me to do for you? (Mark 10:51)

66. Why are you trying to trap me? (Mark 12:15)

67. Do you see all these great buildings? (Mark 13:2)

68. Are you asleep? (Mark 14:37)

69. Could you not keep watch for one hour? (Mark 14:37)

70. Why were you searching for me? (Luke 2:49)

71. Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house? (Luke 2:49)

72. Why are you thinking these things in your hearts? (Luke 5:22)

73. Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? (Luke 5:23)

74. Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? (Luke 6:46)

75. Where is your faith? (Luke 8:25)

76. What is your name? (Luke 8:30)

77. Who touched me? (Luke 8:45)

78. Will you be lifted up to the skies? (Luke 10:15)

79. What is written in the Law? How do you read it? (Luke 10:26)

80. Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers? (Luke 10:36)

81. Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? (Luke 11:40)

82. Who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you? (Luke 12:14-15)

83. Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? (Luke 12:25)

84. Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right? (Luke 12:57)

85. Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Will he not first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? (Luke 14:31)

86. Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? (Luke 14:34)

87. Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? (Luke 15:4)

88. Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Does she not light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? (Luke 15:8)

89. So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? (Luke 16:11)

90. Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine? (Luke 17:17)

91. And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? (Luke 18:7)

92. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth? (Luke 18:8)

93. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? (Luke 22:27)

94. Why are you sleeping? (Luke 22:46)

95. For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry? (Luke 23:31)

96. What are you discussing together as you walk along? (Luke 24:17)

97. What things? (Luke 24:19)

98. Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory? (Luke 24:26)

99. Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? (Luke 24:38)

100. Do you have anything here to eat? (Luke 24:41)

101. What do you want? (John 1:38)

102. Why do you involve me? (John 2:4)

103. You are Israel’s teacher, and do you not understand these things? (John 3:10)

104. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? (John 3:12)

105. Will you give me a drink? (John 4:7)

106. Do you want to get well? (John 5:6)

107. How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God? (John 5:44)

108. If you do not believe Moses’ writings how will you believe me? (John 5:47)

109. Where shall we buy bread for these people to eat? (John 6:5)

110. Does this offend you? (John 6:61)

111. What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! (John 6:62)

112. You do not want to leave too, do you? (John 6:67)

113. Have I not chosen you? (John 6:70)

114. Has not Moses given you the law? (John 7:19)

115. Why are you trying to kill me? (John7:19)

116. Why are you angry with me for healing the whole man on the Sabbath? (John 7:23)

117. Where are they? Has no one condemned you? (John 8:10)

118. Why is my language not clear to you? (John 8:43)

119. Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? (John 8:46)

120. If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? (John 8:46)

121. Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:36)

122. Are there not twelve hours of daylight? (John 11:9)

123. Do you believe this? (John 11:26)

124. Where have you laid him? (John 11:33)

125. Do you understand what I have done for you? (John 13:12)

126. Don’t you know me, even after I have been among you such a long time? (John 14:9)

127. Who is it you want? (John 18:4,7)

128. Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me? (John 18:11)

129. Is that your own idea, or did others talk to you about me? (John 18:34)

130. Why question me? (John 18:21)

131. If I spoke the truth, why did you strike me? (John 18:23)

132. Why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for? (John 20:15)

133. Friends, haven’t you any fish? (John 21:5)

134. Do you love me? (John 21:17)

135. What is that to you? (John 21:22)NKJV

136. 6 When Jesus saw him lying there and knew that he had already been there a long time, he said to him, “Do you want to be healed?”

137. John 5:6b, He said to him, "Do you want to be made well?" NKJV

138. Mark 8:23, So He took the blind man by the hand and led him out of the town. And when He had spit on his eyes and put His hands on him, He asked him if he saw anything. NKJV

139. Luke 12:26, If you then are not able to do the least, why are you anxious for the rest? NKJV

Blessings brother.

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

Thank you for the apology. But there are reasons other than ignorance that might motivate someone to ask others to share their perspective or answer a question.

 

[concretecamper]

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized

it doesn't exist. This line of thinking is a novel idea popular among certain groups only in the past 100 years

 

[FireDragon76]

A highly respected seminary includes the following regarding its positionon baptism.

"Christian Baptism . . . is the solemn and beautiful testimony of a believer showing forth his faith in the crucified, buried, and risen Savior, and his union with Him in death to sin and resurrection to a new life. It is also a sign of fellowship and identification with the visible Body of Christ."

I need help finding the Scripture that describes baptism as an instrument designed to be used for the personnal testimony of the baptized.

You won't find it there, that's a relatively modern understanding that originated with the rise of religious voluntarism and humanism in the modern era.

Even in the Reformed churches, where you might find a relatively "low", Zwinglian view of the sacrament, it would would be regarded as a sign to what God does in the believer, not what the believer has done.

 

[ViaCrucis]

My parents have this belief, too that their baptism is their salvation. There is no testimony on how Christ has worked through their life and/or continues to do so. They solely rely on the act of baptism. Explaining otherwise to them has proven fruitless.

Do we put our faith in ourselves, or do we put our faith in Christ?

From a Lutheran perspective, and without knowing anything else other than what you've said here, your parents have it absolutely right. It is not our personal testimony, or anything we do, it isn't our works, it is God's grace alone that saves us, through faith alone, on account of what Christ alone has done.

Lutherans make a great deal to point out that we can look at our baptism and trust what Christ has said to us in that baptism, that we are His, and that He will not leave us nor forsake us.

God saves us apart from our works, apart from our efforts, we don't do stuff to earn God's favor. Rather God alone, out of His compassion and love toward us in Jesus, comes down to rescue us, to actually take hold of us and call us His children. He gives us His Spirit, He comes to dwell with us and in us, He comes to us to declare us just on account of what Jesus has done because Jesus' has made perfect satisfaction for us already, the work is finished, accomplished, and perfect: Christ has done it all, Jesus has paid it all.

So, yes, we can look to our baptism and believe in God's promises. And we are daily, continually, strengthened and nourished by God through the preaching of the Gospel, in the Lord's Supper, in all the good things of God which He so richly bestows upon us through His word. That we might believe in Jesus, know Him as our Savior, and daily be sustained by Him through the Holy Spirit.

To trust in anything else would be to place our faith not upon Christ, but upon ourselves. And there's nothing worthy in ourselves to believe in. We are, of ourselves, dead in our sins, dead to God, helpless, unworthy, and utterly wretched in our sin. We need the Savior. Every day, every hour, every moment, we need Jesus.

On the other hand, if one says, "I have been baptized, and now I can live however I like, sin a thousand times daily, never repent, and I don't need Jesus" then they have forsaken and abandoned their baptism. That is not faith, but faithlessness. The mere act of being baptized doesn't save. It is what God does and gives in baptism that saves, it is Christ who saves, it is the faith we receive in our baptism, and which is daily strengthened and nourished and sustained in Word and Sacrament that saves. Baptism does not save ex opere operato, from the working of the work itself, as bare or naked action; but rather baptism as the precious gift and Sacrament, in which God speaks His saving word to us, that saves.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Dan Perez]

ByTheSpirit is quite right in regards to a credobaptist definition of baptism.
Here are some definitions of baptism I have found on the internet regarding a Baptist definition of baptism:

• Baptism is an outward sign of an inward change.
• A public proclamation and a testimony of God’s work in a believer’s life.
• Baptism is a choice that one needs to make for him/herself as part of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
• It is an act of obedience and discipleship.

In examining the Biblical text, we find no definition of this type anywhere.

This is not to say, the Sacraments are not a public testimony of a believers faith…they are! But the Baptists and American Evangelicals got the wrong Sacrament! It is the other Sacrament.

I Cor 11:26 "For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."

Scripture clearly states it is in the Lord's Supper, we testify publicly to our faith. The NT doesn't speak of baptism in this way. No where does baptism equate to a public testimony of ones faith.

The reason why a believers public proclamation is in the Lord's Supper and not in baptism is simple. In partaking of the Holy Communion a believer is active, and in baptism the believer is passive. No Christian baptizes himself. Never.

Receiving the Lord’s Supper is the most public act of worship we do on Sunday. We are active in receiving the Lord’s supper as Jesus says, “Take eat” and “Drink.” And yet we are passive in the its blessings.

In baptism, we are passive. We never baptize ourselves. Someone else baptizes us. Even the blessing we get in baptism are passively given to us…Romans 6 says we are united with Christ death burial and resurrection. We don’t unite ourselves to his event, God does. We are passive. God is active.

And yet even those that baptize us are passive because ministers are seen as instruments who act in the place and at the command of Christ when they administer the baptism. It is true as an adult on consents to be baptized, but you are not active in baptism.

However, a baptism itself (the application of water, with accompanying words) is a statement by God (through the church) to and about the person being baptized, not a statement by that person.

In Baptism God is doing; we are receiving. Baptism is neither the work of the one being baptized nor of the man baptizing, but rather it is solely the work of God. This work of God is done through human hands.

If anyone believes in Water Baptism , please help me out , Please ?

#1 Where was WATER BAPTISM first introduced ?

#2 When you see the GREEK BAPTISM / BAPTIZO , does it always mean WATER BAPTISM ?

#3 Here is and example , in 1 Cor 10:2 And al were BAPTIZED / BAPTISO together unto Moses in the CLOUD , and in the SEA ?

#4 So how can anyone be BAPTIZED unto Moses ?

#5 How can anyone be BAPTIZED unto a CLOUD ?

#6 And be BAPTIZED in the SEA ?

#7 Is there any significance of what means the CLOUD and the SEA ?

#8 Here is another one in 1 Cor 15:29 How is anyone BAPTIZED for the DEAD ?

Just because anyone sees the Greek word BAPTIZO/ BAPTISM DOES NOT MEAN it is speaking about WATER BAPTISM >

dan p

 

[concretecamper]

Looks like another one got a Greek lexicon starter kit as a gift and is now an expert in Greek

 

[Dan Perez]

Looks like another one got a Greek lexicon starter kit as a gift and is now an expert in Greek

AND here is a simple WAY to check , in Eph 4:5 where it says , ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE BAPRISM .

Does ONE BAPTISM mean WATER BAPTISM ??

#2 Where is the Greek word for WATER / HUDOR seen in Eph 4:5 ?

#3 But BAPTISMA can be checked by anyone in BLUE LETTER BIBLE or check BIBLE HUB .

#4 The Greek word BAPTISM / BAPTISMA , and is used 22 times from Matthew though 1 Peter 3:21 .

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