Australia - What you probably didn't know

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Australia – what you probably didn’t know

I’m sure you’ve heard of Australia but what do you really know about it?

Ok – it has tough gun laws, a socialistic universal health care program, a weird accent and dangerous wildlife, But where is it?, what is it? and who are they? What follows is an assortment of bits and pieces of Australiana based on questions I’ve seen in Quora, and CF, along with some common misconceptions. - OB
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Most people in the Northern Hemisphere have heard of Australia but (let’s be honest) don’t really know where it is apart from ‘down there' somewhere near New Zealand (wherever that is?).

The Location
  • To the south the nearest neighbour is Antarctica 5000 km away
  • To the south-east, New Zealand is 1700 km away or 5 and a half hours by plane
  • To the west across the Indian Ocean, Madagascar is 9000 km away, then Africa
  • To the east – the Pacific and a scattering of tiny island nations like Vanuatu and Fiji. (many Australians go to Fiji for holidays). Then after 14 hours on the plane - the US
  • To the north - here’s where things get a little crowded. Australians can practically touch Papua New Guinea with a long stick and East Timor is a short canoe ride away. The other near northern neighbour is Indonesia, a country of 278 million people; the fourth biggest country in the world (by population) and one of the world’s most underrated countries. Australia and Indonesia have a common maritime boundary. Bali (in Indonesia) is a favourite Australian holiday destination.
The Country
  • Australia is big. At 7.7 million square km it’s about the same size as the contiguous states of the US, 50% bigger than Europe or 32 times the size of the UK
  • Western Australia (WA), Australia’s biggest state, is 4 times the size of Texas.
  • Australia is the driest inhabited continent in the world (Antarctica is the driest continent); 70% of it is either desert or semi-arid land. Many arid parts are almost treeless. Central Australia is comparable to the Sahara Desert
  • Australia has relatively few permanent rivers or lakes. In dry weather many rivers shrink to a series of billabongs (pools) or dry up completely. Lake Eyre, located towards the centre of Australia, is a salt lake surrounded by salt flats
  • Apart from the South East corner and parts of the east coast, Australia is pretty much flat due to its extreme geological age - it just got worn down
  • The Australian Alps on the South East corner of the continent get more snow than Switzerland. The Australian ski season lasts 4-5 months from June to October
  • Australia is a paradise for feral animals imported by European immigrants. Rats, mice, cats, foxes, dogs, rabbits, deer, goats, pigs, horses and buffalo are all non-native invaders often hunted, trapped, poisoned, infected or ignored. At the last count there were an estimated one million camels roaming Australia’s deserts. Camels were imported as pack animals in the early days opening up the interior.
  • With one Tasmanian exception Australian trees don’t drop their leaves in Autumn (i.e., there is no ‘Fall’). Native trees shed leaves in a steady trickle all year round.
  • The moon in Australia is upside down compared to what you see in the Northern Hemisphere.
The People & Culture
  • Australia’s indigenous peoples are the oldest continuous culture in the world. Current measurements date Australian indigenous people and culture back 60-70 thousand years.
  • Most of Australia has a population density below 0.1 people per sq km
  • Australia has about 26 million people living in a country the same size as the US
  • Most of the country is effectively uninhabited. 40% of the country is rated uninhabitable. This is largely due to the lack of surface water
  • Most Australians live in cities – we’re more urbanised than the US
  • 80% of Australians live within 80km of the coast and the bulk of the population is on the East coast
  • Australians rarely tip – it’s an egalitarian thing
  • Solo Australian travellers normally sit in the front seat of the taxi – it’s an egalitarian thing
  • In Australia everyone is normally addressed by their first name or nickname. Courtesy titles (Mr, Mrs, Doctor etc.) are rarely used except in formal circumstances and usually indicate you’re not actually accepted - it’s an egalitarian thing. This would apply even in addressing our Prime Minister in an informal meeting. “Hello Scotty :wave:
  • Australia is a migrant nation. As at 2015, 26%, of Australians were born overseas. This compares with 23% for New Zealand, 22% for Canada and 14% for the US
  • According to the 2016 census, after English, the next most common languages spoken in Australian homes were Mandarin, Arabic, Cantonese, and Vietnamese.
  • Nearly a third of Australians (30%) reported in the 2016 Census that they had no religion. Those who identify with a religion rarely go to church
  • Apart from cricket, any outward expression of patriotism is rare. It‘s unusual for private individuals to fly the flag. Those who do are regarded with suspicion as potential nationalistic bogans. American patriotism is regarded as strange and a bit creepy
  • Most Australian employees get 2 months leave on full pay after 10 years’ service with the same employer. This is on top of 4 weeks paid holiday leave each year and up to 2 weeks paid sick/carers leave
  • All voting, whether it’s local, state or federal, is compulsory. Don’t vote and you’ll be fined
  • In Australia tobacco products cannot be advertised or on public display in shops. All cigarette brands come in standard plain brown packaging complete with disgusting photos of tobacco related diseases.
  • Our banknotes are beautiful and made of a secret polymer capable of surviving Armageddon, or your washing machine, and impossible to duplicate
  • Australia’s smallest coin is a 5cent piece but prices are in 1 cent multiples, for example $2.47, $7.52. How we reconcile this problem and pay for stuff is a state secret
  • Australia’s national icon, the kangaroo, is also sold in supermarkets as steak, mince, or sausages
  • While we have access to electric clothes driers, most Australians dry their washing outdoors on a clothes line- usually using a brilliant Australian invention known as a Hills Hoist. The good bit is it’s free and carbon neutral. On the downside, line dried towels just aren’t as fluffy.
  • Australian humour includes the judicious use of insults with an overlay of self-deprecation which is rarely understood by Americans. Put simply we tend to poke fun at each other and laugh at ourselves
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So there you are. There is more, like left side driving, toilets, the date, cutlery usage and the relative meanings of ‘thong’ but it’s Christmas so I’ll spare you the rest.

OB
 
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While we have access to electric clothes driers, most Australians dry their washing outdoors on a clothes line- usually using a brilliant Australian invention known as a Hills Hoist. The good bit is it’s free and carbon neutral. On the downside, line dried towels aren’t as fluffy.
And makes use of the very latest in solar and wind technology!
 
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All voting, whether it’s local, state or federal, is compulsory. Don’t vote and you’ll be fined

I did have the privilege of visiting once around 2000; very beautiful, wonderful people. Had no idea about the voting, that's interesting.
 
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I did have the privilege of visiting once around 2000; very beautiful, wonderful people. Had no idea about the voting, that's interesting.

One thing I didn't mention is that most voting is preferential. On a single ballot you rate candidates in order of preference. This obviates the need for runoff elections. It also gives independent or minor party candidates the chance of being elected.

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I've been to Australia a number of times, beautiful country, and the people are incredibly nice...yes even in Tasmania. Something not mentioned are the fantastic steaks and generous portions; the place we were at even included "toppings". We selected prawns, which were also huge and delicious, at no extra charge. My only complaint is lack of mountains. My wife and I walked up Mount Kosciuszko (about 7,000 feet) and thought "yeah nice view". Only later did we find out it was the tallest mountain in Australia! Can't wait to go again, when the pandemic ends.
 
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I've been to Australia a number of times, beautiful country, and the people are incredibly nice...yes even in Tasmania. Something not mentioned are the fantastic steaks and generous portions; the place we were at even included "toppings". We selected prawns, which were also huge and delicious, at no extra charge. My only complaint is lack of mountains. My wife and I walked up Mount Kosciuszko (about 7,000 feet) and thought "yeah nice view". Only later did we find out it was the tallest mountain in Australia! Can't wait to go again, when the pandemic ends.

Yeah - when it comes to mountains ours would barely rate as big hills when compared to mountains in the US or Europe. Your average sherpa would probably die laughing if invited to 'conquer' Kosciuszko.:)

At least we have just enough height to hold snow on about 15 ski resorts for a few months of the year.

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And beers that are considered premium beers in The States are considered barely drinkable!


I'm not sure if being beer connoisseurs is something we should brag about or keep as a shameful secret. :):(

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I used to love that song. Then I found out that it was originally developed in the US and used to sell Chevvies, and, even worse, reused to sell Chevvies in South Africa.

My world collapsed. It entirely destroyed my faith in advertising jingles. :(

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Yeah - when it comes to mountains ours would barely rate as big hills when compared to mountains in the US or Europe. Your average sherpa would probably die laughing if invited to 'conquer' Kosciuszko.:)

At least we have just enough height to hold snow on about 15 ski resorts for a few months of the year.

OB

I was having a beer in Flagstaff in Arizona sone time back. The bar was tricked out like a ski lodge as there's a ski field on the adjacent mountain.. I told the barman that I enjoyed skiing and he was astonished that I could do it in Australia. 'Oh, yeah. We've got mountains, mate'. So he asked which was the biggest. Well, that'll be Kosciusko at about 2,200 meters. He didn't look impressed. He said 'I think the stool you're sitting on is higher than that'.

Well, a quick check on Google proved he was wrong. But only by a hundred feet or so.
 
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I'm not sure if being beer connoisseurs is something we should brag about or keep as a shameful secret. :):(

OB

I tend to remembner that because during the Rugby World Cup at a stadium within sight of the 4X brewery I was standing a ways back from the line trying to find a decent beer and an Auzzie walked up behind me and said 'It's no good mate, it's all Heineken'. Probably why so many people were drinking Bundy and coke!
 
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How much is land going for in Australia? I could be an immigrant since it's friendly that way. :)

Edit: I am conditioned to growing a garden, so I'm thinking that limits the possibilities, or no?
 
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I tend to remembner that because during the Rugby World Cup at a stadium within sight of the 4X brewery I was standing a ways back from the line trying to find a decent beer and an Auzzie walked up behind me and said 'It's no good mate, it's all Heineken'. Probably why so many people were drinking Bundy and coke!

True story: My wife and I were doing a tour of a very old brewery in Bruge in Belgium (they really pride themselves on their beer in that part of the world). And the brewery was in the centre of town, which is a rabbit warren of narrow, cobbled streets. Unfortunately, their bottling plant was about 3 kms away on the outskirts and it was a real pain getting beer tankers back and forth. So, they applied to lay a pipe between the two. Which was approved, and after 3 years they completed it.

The guy showing us around had a section of the pipe and it contained two smaller pipes for the beer, and one for cables etc. And he said that in some places, the pipe was only a half a metre underground. Which raised a few eyebrows. Hmm. If you knew where it was and you dug down a little...

But, he said, seeing what people were thinking, after every batch of beer has been pumped through, they pump a cleaning fluid through and then flush it with water. So if you happened to find a leak, or you tapped into the pipe, then you might end up drinking the cleaning fluid. Which, he said, was a low cost liquid, and tasted absolutely terrible. You would definitely make yourself sick.

'And', he said, 'we have a name for this disgusting liquid'. Suitable pause. 'Heineken'.
 
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How much is land going for in Australia? I could be an immigrant since it's friendly that way. :)

Edit: I am conditioned to growing a garden, so I'm thinking that limits the possibilities, or no?

An interesting question but one which is almost impossible to answer. Do you mean land, or houseblock or house-on-land?

Imagine me asking "how much is land going for in America?" There are so many variables that a sensible answer is impossible but I'm going to try.

In the more desirable areas - east coast, urban, coastal, more temperate climate- if you need to ask you probably can't afford it ($1,000,000 plus). Australian housing is extremely expensive although to be fair we tend to demand big houses in premium locations.

Avoid the big cities like Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane and you probably bring the price down a bit. I live on the coast, about midway between Sydney and Brisbane, near (within 50km) of a regional centre where your average new house is probably around $600,000 AUS(allow an exchange rate of $1AUS = 71cents US)

If you decide to go inland everything changes. As you move west towards the desert towns shrink along with facilities and the distance between centres increases. The price of housing depends on whether the location is growing or shrinking. Inland townships tend to be shrinking unless they've established a solid secondary industry like tourism.

Soil is not a factor in the price of a house/land. Wherever you go the soil will be deficient in minerals notably phosphates and nitrogen. As you get closer to the desert your soil will basically become iron filings mixed with sand - great for natives but death for lettuce.

The climate is another variable. Go coastal north and heat and humidity increase. Go inland and heat will increase while humidity tails off as does rainfall. Go south and it becomes more temperate. Much depends on what you're used to.

I live in what is often called the Goldilocks zone but even here humidity can be in the 80s and temps around 100f. Today was ideal - 75% humidity and around 85f but, if you're not used to it, my ideal day would hit you like a wet brick.

Basically when you move away from the coast you choices become more limited.


There is a reason why the lower part of the east coast is where most of us tend to live.

OB
 
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...a socialistic universal health care program

No, what we have is a system that doesn't just callously toss people onto the street because they don't have "health insurance". To call this "socialistic" is both inaccurate and insulting, and no person who lives in Australia refers to it as "socialised medicine".

...weird accent and dangerous wildlife

No, everyone else's accent is weird, not ours. Dangerous wildlife? Are you American by any chance?

Current measurements date Australian indigenous people and culture back 60-70 thousand years.

You fail to mention the fact that the term "indigenous" is completely misleading, because of course they did arrive (like the rest of us) from overseas, probably South-East Asia or Southern India.​

Australians rarely tip – it’s an egalitarian thing

It's got nothing to do with 'egalitarianism', and everything to do with the fact that 1. tipping is stupid, and 2. we actually pay people who work in cafes and restaurants a decent, livable wage, so they don't need to be tipped.

Solo Australian travellers normally sit in the front seat of the taxi – it’s an egalitarian thing

I never noticed this. Then again, I can't even recall the last time I used a taxi.

In Australia everyone is normally addressed by their first name or nickname. Courtesy titles (Mr, Mrs, Doctor etc.) are rarely used except in formal circumstances and usually indicate you’re not actually accepted - it’s an egalitarian thing.

Hmm, yes, that unfortunately is true. I don't want to be called by my first name unless I've actually known you for the last 20 years at least, and we're good friends (or related). As for 'nicknames'! Ugh! No way! Don't even think about giving me a nickname!
The informality of daily life in Australia is something I will never get used to or accept, and I've lived here since 1970. It is just SO wrong, and people who come from overseas are often completely baffled by it. The expression "familiarity breeds contempt" is one that most Australians are no doubt not at all familiar with.

Nearly a third of Australians (30%) reported in the 2016 Census that they had no religion. Those who identify with a religion rarely go to church

Which of course does not mean they don't believe in God.

Apart from cricket, any outward expression of patriotism is rare. It‘s unusual for private individuals to fly the flag. Those who do are regarded with suspicion as potential nationalistic bogans. American patriotism is regarded as strange and a bit creepy

What? Are you joking here? I see flags everywhere. Then again, I live in the country, not a large city (and let's face it, city people are just downright weird). And not all bogans are nationalistic; what defines a bogan is their lack of culture and intelligence, and their tendency to drink too much alcohol and drive Holden utility cars (preferably with mag wheels).

Most Australian employees get 2 months leave on full pay after 10 years’ service with the same employer. This is on top of 4 weeks paid holiday leave each year and up to 2 weeks paid sick/carers leave

Ah, no, no, no, no! Most Australian employees (especially the very young, those who are teenagers or in their 20's) work through employment agencies, and they don't receive ANY of these benefits. They do, however, have job insecurity, because they can instantly be dismissed without compensation or notice.

Australian humour includes the judicious use of insults with an overlay of self-deprecation which is rarely understood by Americans. Put simply we tend to poke fun at each other and laugh at ourselves

It isn't just Americans who don't understand it; no one else does either. And many of us actually do not like to be made fun of, so don't make this assumption with everyone (that could turn out to be a dangerous mistake).
 
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