ATTN Seniors: Trumps calls for cuts to Social Security, Medicare

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Here comes the scare tactics.

Medicare is being cut

Social security is being cut

One of the most used Democratic bylines in history.


Hold on I will post some links.

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Social Security was never designed to do what it now does. Over the years it went from being a old age pension safety net in which the average person collected 13 payments before dying (life expectancy was 58 for men and 62 for women in 1930). Over the years, all sorts of additional benefits have been added (including SSI, widows and children of widows, etc.) and the number of years a person collects has risen astronomically. Consequently, SS is paying out billions more than projected. They're running out of money. The only hope we have is that the Millennial generation will hit their prime years with good paying jobs and we soak them with large SS taxes to keep the system afloat. Given their socialist tendencies, they shouldn't mind.

With all these "facts" behind them, GOP candidates should be loudly campaigning with their support for abolishing Social Security. Please.
 
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I would like an opt-out option of the excessive military spending, please.

Qualify that. What's "excessive?" Military defensive is one of the basic functions of federal government, and it's a service we all receive and benefit from; whereas I have no guarantee I'm going to benefit from SSI or Medicare at all, nor am I even allowed to right now.
 
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Qualify that. What's "excessive?" Military defensive is one of the basic functions of federal government, and it's a service we all receive and benefit from; whereas I have no guarantee I'm going to benefit from SSI or Medicare at all, nor am I even allowed to right now.
But military offence is not necessarily a benefit.
 
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But military offence is not necessarily a benefit.

Some have said "the best defense is a good offense." Based on your spelling, I assume you're not American (not a dig or goad, but simply a question based on observation)?
 
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Qualify that. What's "excessive?" Military defensive is one of the basic functions of federal government, and it's a service we all receive and benefit from; whereas I have no guarantee I'm going to benefit from SSI or Medicare at all, nor am I even allowed to right now.
But the part of government that is the most socialist is OK. I’m speaking of the Armed Forces.
 
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Some have said "the best defense is a good offense." Based on your spelling, I assume you're not American (not a dig or goad, but simply a question based on observation)?
It depends on who you ask. Of course, I'm not a "real" American because I don't "believe the Bible." But to the point, I don't like seeing my hard-earned tax dollars going towards military adventurism overseas. We haven't fought a real defensive war since 1945.
 
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But the part of government that is the most socialist is OK. I’m speaking of the Armed Forces.

IDK, brother, I see there is a start line between what is defined as a "social program" and a "defense program." Call me crazy.
 
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IDK, brother, I see there is a start line between what is defined as a "social program" and a "defense program." Call me crazy.
Yeah, do the armed forces give any money to lazy poor people who could all get jobs if they wanted?
 
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IDK, brother, I see there is a start line between what is defined as a "social program" and a "defense program." Call me crazy.
The Armed Forces are operated as a socialist system. That is what makes me laugh when people whine about socialism. Our safety is in the hands of a socialist organization.
 
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Update: still on the menu.

Trump Signals Willingness to Reform Social Security, Medicare: ‘We Will Take a Look at That’

Speaking with CNBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Trump was asked whether he would cut entitlements at some point.

“Will entitlements ever be on your plate?” asked interviewer Joe Kernen.

“At some point they will be,” Trump responded. “At the right time, we will take a look at that. You know, that’s the easiest of all things [to cut].” Trump went on to suggest that strong economic growth under his administration would make entitlement cuts more palatable to the American public.
 
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It depends on who you ask. Of course, I'm not a "real" American because I don't "believe the Bible." But to the point, I don't like seeing my hard-earned tax dollars going towards military adventurism overseas. We haven't fought a real defensive war since 1945.

I would agree, but apparently there are quite a few people who get upset when we want to pull the troops back from the overseas adventures.
 
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The Armed Forces are operated as a socialist system. That is what makes me laugh when people whine about socialism. Our safety is in the hands of a socialist organization.

This is such a nonsensical argument. It's not socialist. You're just being silly.
 
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This is such a nonsensical argument. It's not socialist. You're just being silly.

It's a state-owned means of production (with security services being the thing it produces). It doesn't feature worker self-management, so it would be more akin to an autocratic/Soviet/RedChina style of socialism rather than something from Western Europe.
 
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It's a state-owned means of production (with security services being the thing it produces). It doesn't feature worker self-management, so it would be more akin to an autocratic/Soviet/RedChina style of socialism rather than something from Western Europe.

It's the military. It's not a political idiology. It's not socialist, or capitalist or libertarian. It's just a goofy argument.
 
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