Attempting to redefine the judicial system.

[AkidoMaster]

A basic tenet of criminal law that a person is to be presumed to be innocent until he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proving the person guilty falls completely on the justice system, with the accused bearing no burden of proving his or her innocence. The presumption of innocence is not a determination of innocence, but rather a placing of the burden of proof entirely upon the justice system.

In regards to Judge Kavanaugh, it seems that he is being denied this foundational truth.

There is no proof, there is no corroborating evidence. That has clearly been established. You would have to be disingenuous or ignorant to say otherwise.

If he is disqualified based on unsubstantiated accusations, then our whole judicial system is turned on its heals.

 

[USincognito]

You know conformation hearings aren't court trials, right? And that Congress isn't part of the judicial system?

 

[AkidoMaster]

You know conformation hearings aren't court trials, right? And that Congress isn't part of the judicial system?

He is being accused of a crime.

The legal precepts are not suspended because it is congress.

 

[Desk trauma]

There is no proof, there is no corroborating evidence.

Also there is no trial going on, only a very high level job interview.

 

[USincognito]

Also there is no trial going on, only a very high level job interview.

Yeah, one where the interviewee cries, yells and brags about drinking but still expects the job.

 

[USincognito]

He is being accused of a crime.

The legal precepts are not suspended because it is congress.

Again, hearings are not court cases and Congress is not part of the judicial system.

 

[TuxAme]

The democrats declared him guilty as soon as Trump put him on his list for the vacancy. No trial (and no evidence) required.

 

[USincognito]

The democrats declared him guilty as soon as Trump put him on his list for the vacancy. No trial (and no evidence) required.

Judge Kavanaugh is not on trial. And at least he's actually getting a confirmation hearing, unlike Merrick Garland.

 

[eleos1954]

A basic tenet of criminal law that a person is to be presumed to be innocent until he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proving the person guilty falls completely on the justice system, with the accused bearing no burden of proving his or her innocence. The presumption of innocence is not a determination of innocence, but rather a placing of the burden of proof entirely upon the justice system.

In regards to Judge Kavanaugh, it seems that he is being denied this foundational truth.

There is no proof, there is no corroborating evidence. That has clearly been established. You would have to be disingenuous or ignorant to say otherwise.

If he is disqualified based on unsubstantiated accusations, then our whole judicial system is turned on its heals.

Not only our whole judicial system ... but our entire society is turned upside down.

So does everybody want to be presumed guilty and then move on from there?
Really? Jeepers Creepers

 

[AkidoMaster]

Judge Kavanaugh is not on trial. And at least he's actually getting a confirmation hearing, unlike Merrick Garland.

A confirmation what?

 

[AkidoMaster]

The moment an accusation of a crime is introduced, the legal precedent of innocent until prove guilty is in play.

While there was compelling statements, there was presented no proof, no corroborating witnesses and the time and place were not known.

You can’t be guilty on say so. The burden is on those pressing the accusation, not the judge.

The danger is if this changes.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A basic tenet of criminal law that a person is to be presumed to be innocent until he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proving the person guilty falls completely on the justice system, with the accused bearing no burden of proving his or her innocence. The presumption of innocence is not a determination of innocence, but rather a placing of the burden of proof entirely upon the justice system.

In regards to Judge Kavanaugh, it seems that he is being denied this foundational truth.

There is no proof, there is no corroborating evidence. That has clearly been established. You would have to be disingenuous or ignorant to say otherwise.

If he is disqualified based on unsubstantiated accusations, then our whole judicial system is turned on its heals.

A basic tenet of a job interview is not to hire an applicant with a lot of baggage... or have we forgotten that Kavanaugh is not on trial?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

A basic tenet of criminal law that a person is to be presumed to be innocent until he is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proving the person guilty falls completely on the justice system, with the accused bearing no burden of proving his or her innocence. The presumption of innocence is not a determination of innocence, but rather a placing of the burden of proof entirely upon the justice system.

In regards to Judge Kavanaugh, it seems that he is being denied this foundational truth.

There is no proof, there is no corroborating evidence. That has clearly been established. You would have to be disingenuous or ignorant to say otherwise.

If he is disqualified based on unsubstantiated accusations, then our whole judicial system is turned on its heals.

Judge Kavanaugh isn't a defendant in a criminal trial. This is a job interview.

 

[TuxAme]

Judge Kavanaugh is not on trial. And at least he's actually getting a confirmation hearing, unlike Merrick Garland.

I didn't say that he's on trial.

And I don't feel too sorry for Garland. America decided that it wanted President Trump to shape the Supreme Court, not Barack Obama and not Hillary Clinton.

 

[AkidoMaster]

A basic tenet of a job interview is not to hire an applicant with a lot of baggage... or have we forgotten that Kavanaugh is not on trial?

He is facing criminal accusations and until 10 days ago his reputation was spotless.

No one is buying the job interview narrative, well most are not.

 

[USincognito]

I didn't say that he's on trial.

That's true. You only stated that he was declared guilty and there was no trial required.

The democrats declared him guilty as soon as Trump put him on his list for the vacancy. No trial (and no evidence) required.

And I don't feel too sorry for Garland. America decided that it wanted President Trump to shape the Supreme Court, not Barack Obama and not Hillary Clinton.

Actually that would be Mitch McConnell who appointed himself the decision maker for the nation. And spare us the "America" garbage. Trump didn't get a majority of the votes cast, and something like 33% of the voting aged population is hardly "America".

 

[USincognito]

He is facing criminal accusations and until 10 days ago his reputation was spotless.

1. No he's not.
2. No it wasn't. See the David Brock piece I posted.

No one is buying the job interview narrative, well most are not.

Indeed. It's only those of us who actually understand what a confirmation hearing is who get that it's basically a job interview.

 

[Goonie]

He is facing criminal accusations and until 10 days ago his reputation was spotless.

No one is buying the job interview narrative, well most are not.

Except that it is a job interview. This is a fact that can’t be denied without baring false witness.

 

[TLK Valentine]

He is facing criminal accusations

And that matters in a criminal court.

and until 10 days ago his reputation was spotless.

So was Cosby's.

No one is buying the job interview narrative, well most are not.

Then what's the point of a Senate Confirmation? It might shock you to discover that Congress is not Donald's personal rubber stamp... (shhh... don't tell McConnell)

 

[AkidoMaster]

A basic tenet of a job interview is not to hire an applicant with a lot of baggage... or have we forgotten that Kavanaugh is not on trial?

You can keep repeating that, it does not make it correct.