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At least 9 dead, 26 injured in mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by DamianWarS, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. GreatLakes4Ever

    GreatLakes4Ever Active Member

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    Indiana (and Wisconsin to a lesser extent) being so close to the city with their more lax gun laws are a big reason this happens. I work in the city of Chicago and I am 18 miles from the closest gun shop in Indiana and 14 miles from Wrigley Field which is in the heart of the city of Chicago. I also live less than two miles from one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the city.

    @OldWiseGuy I live in Chicago.
    Looking at the article: Lawndale (and North Lawndale) is a rough area. East Garfield Park is violent but if I had the money I’d be buying land there because the gentrification of West Town is casting its eye to the next neighborhood along the Green Line which is East Garfield Park. South Deering was self inflicted by a toddler.

    At the red dots on the map: Austin I think may have just taken the spot as the most dangerous neighborhood in the city from Englewood (another for). Greater Grand Crossing is another bad neighborhood right next to Englewood. Back of the Yards is where the Showtime series Shameless takes place. West Garfield Park is similar to its twin East Garfield Park though a longer ways from gentrification happening. South North Lawndale and Lawndale I’ve already discussed. South Deering was self inflicted by a toddler Italy is the only one that I find surprising on this list though I would never think to include it on a list of the safest neighborhoods in the city.

    There are 76 neighborhoods in the city and over half of them have zero shootings in the time frame you are listing including none of the neighborhoods with major sports stadiums/arenas. I travel through some of the worse neighborhoods and they are not a war zone like Trump says. In fact, according to the FBI, Chicago doesn’t even rank in the Top 25 in the USA for most violent crimes per capita. Yes, there is too much crime in the city but is not a hellscape that Trump tries to paint it.
     
  2. Gracia Singh

    Gracia Singh Newbie Supporter

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    Christ, have mercy. This world is going nuts. Most pagan societies weren't this messed up, if any.
     
  3. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    The point I made was for general registration of guns; who owns them and where they are.
     
  4. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    The media paints a different picture.
     
  5. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    People who don't know how to use a gun aren't the problem.
     
  6. GreatLakes4Ever

    GreatLakes4Ever Active Member

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    The media is also wrong.
     
  7. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Well then, the sooner we eliminate the GOP the better off we'll be. We'll be safer and richer.
     
  8. GOD Shines Forth!

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    Contra:

    "We can move forward in society when the death cult that has a fetish for disarmament stops agitating for policy antithetical to our right to keep and bear arms."

    Gotta love our Founders for adding..."SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"!
     
  9. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    No 'kidding'.
     
  10. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Nor are those who own them.
     
  11. Eight Foot Manchild

    Eight Foot Manchild His Supreme Holy Correctfulness

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    [​IMG]
     
  12. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    We were warned that this would happen.
     
  13. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Reminds me of a "Suggestion Box" with no bottom and a wastebasket underneath.
     
  14. Speedwell

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    Hooray for them. Mandatory registered ownership would not constitute an infringement.
     
  15. GreatLakes4Ever

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    I have to know, why are you so hellbent on keeping this false narrative you have that Chicago is some dilapidated hellhole? Trump and the media have both portrayed it wrong and you got sucked in by it. We all get fooled sometimes. I remember when I thought Anthony Mason was going to lead the Milwaukee Bucks to greatness. How wrong I was.
     
  16. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    I think you have wrongly inferred most of that.

    My main purpose is to draw attention to the fact that there are other murders going on in America continually. I could have posted news articles about many other cities. We don't seem to be able to do any more about them than these mass shootings. And the horrible reason is that we're "all in this thing together". We walk around with targets on our backs and wonder why we get shot. :doh:
     
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  17. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Unless there were historical evidence that it ultimately leads to infringement.
     
  18. iluvatar5150

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    AFAIK, risk isn't much of a factor in drug pricing, at least at the level of a lower-tier street dealer. The faulty assumption that increased risk would increase prices, which would then drive away customers, is part of why the war on drugs hasn't worked.


    The church that you're describing has been garbage at stemming social problems and in many cases, directly contributed to them. Most of Europe is far more secular than the US and doesn't have these sort of issues with violence.

    What's actually been devastating is poverty and lack of investment in people. We spent centuries denying minorities the right to participate in society, shoveling them into ghettos and essentially creating the fuel for the problems we see today. But the backlash against providing social services to these "lazy, undeserving" minorities inadvertently wound up hurting a lot of whites, too.
     
  19. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    A bigger problem is that some minorities aren't a good fit for prospering in our economy.
     
  20. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    An even bigger problem is racists.
     
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