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Assets/Christianity and Liabilities/Atheism

Discussion in 'General Political Discussion' started by clirus, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. clirus

    clirus Well-Known Member

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    Assets/Christianity and Liabilities/Atheism

    In my continuing attempt to discuss the necessity for society to understand Christianity and sustain Christianity, I will discuss Christianity in the economic/accounting terms of assets and liabilities. In religious terms, assets and liabilities are similar to good and evil.

    This a political discussion because the democratic party has chosen to opposed Christianity by advocating Atheism and Socialism. Republicans have yet to prove to me that they totally support Christian Principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.

    Wikipedia defines a society as follows:

    Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A society or a human society is (1) a group of people related to each other through persistent relations such as social status, roles and social networks. (2) A large social grouping that shares the same geographical territory and is subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations. Human societies are characterized by patterns of relationships between individuals sharing a distinctive culture and institutions. Without an article, the term refers either to the entirety of humanity or a contextually specific subset of people.

    I will discuss society in terms of three concepts of society, Islamic, Christian and Atheistic.

    In Islamic Society there is zero tolerance for liabilities/evil. People that are liabilities/evil are executed to preserve the society, thus the Islam society is very profitable but very harsh. Execution is by Sharai Law or directly by religious leaders.

    In Christian Society there is tolerance for liabilities/evil, but a responsibility of Civil Law to preserve society by eliminating/executing liabilities/evil, thus Christian societies are considered to be more humane. Execution is only by Civil Law and never by religious leaders. The greatest weakness of Christianity is tolerance that allows Atheism to take hold of society.

    In Atheistic Society the liabilities/evil are the norm, with there being a rejection of elimination/execution by society. Atheistic societies are considered by Progressives/Liberals to be the pinnacle of being humane. The problem with Atheism is the evil/liabilities leads to disease, death, destruction and poverty that requires massive health care/welfare/entitlement programs to sustain Atheism. Since the Atheists have no assets, they must steal (redistribute wealth) from the Christians for the survival of the Atheists. Atheists reject God because they think they can do a better job of setting up a set of rules for society.

    Atheists are very cleaver in justifying their stealing from Christians (Socialism) by using the New Testament of the Bible to imply Christians have a responsibility to care for the poor. Socialists even state Jesus would have been a Socialist. The truth is the New Testament of the Bible deals mostly with the spiritually poor instead of the physically poor. Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

    In dealing with the poor, there are two types of poverty: self inflicted poverty and unavoidable poverty. Atheists do not want to talk about self inflicted poverty, but Christians do not have any responsibility for physical charity to the self inflicted poor, because the self inflicted poverty is caused by the failure to follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible. Requirements for charity in the New Testament are limited to fellow Christians (brethren), or Good Samaritan situations where the Spiritual situation of the person is unknown. Atheists say they are eliminating poverty by Socialism, but there is not evidence to support that. Poverty always grows unless harsh action is taken, because the sin nature of man that is discussed in the Bible. Christians avoid evil because of the love of God and the fear of an eternity in hell. Christians do have a responsibility to help the spiritually poor by offering the salvation of accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible (thus becoming a Christian)

    Proof that socialistic programs are a failure is the 40% illegitimacy rate that is instant poverty, and the two million deaths per year due to homosexual activity. Both the adultery and homosexuality are self inflicted poverty because the Bible warns they are evil/sin.

    Atheism destroys a society because the costs of the health care/welfare/entitlement liabilities become excessive as the evil/liabilities increase. The evil/liabilities increase because society is prohibited from (or refuses to) eliminate/execute liabilities/evil. The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men (Christians) to do nothing.

    Many people that call themselves Christians oppose the death penalty and war because the New Testament of the Bible calls for an attitude of peace, non violence, and tolerance. But that is an attitude that must be coupled with the reality of the elimination/execution of the Old Testament of the Bible.

    Many people that call themselves Christians will only consider what the New Testament of the Bible says, but as God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit are one and the same as the Trinity, and the Old Testament and New Testament must be resolved as God's holy word.

    I believe the Bible teaches all things should be dealt with by the following three levels of action;
    1) If it is good - accept it and nourish it.
    2) If it is evil - rebuke it but tolerate it.
    3) If it threatens your existence - destroy it before it destroys you. This is self defense, which both the individual and society have a right and responsibility to do.

    The first two are from the New Testament of the Bible and represent the Law of Love. The third is from the Old Testament of the Bible and represents the Law of Purity/Self Defense. The New Testament deals more with personal responsibility and the Old Testament deals more with the preservation of society. The Old Testament and the New Testament together present God's Law, a means of survival for a person, a nation and a world. No one should be forced to be a Christian, but all should be judged by Civil Law based on Christian Principles.

    The only way Civil Law can be good law is by the Blackstone concept of law.

    William Blackstone: Of the Nature of Laws in General

    William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England states, "This law of nature, being coeval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other-It is binding over all the globe in all countries, and at all times; no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this: and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original."

    The key point stated by Blackstone is that law was dictated by God himself, it is superior to all other law, and that no laws contrary to the laws dictated by God are valid. Civil Law does not have to be God's Law, but Civil Law should be consistent with God's Law and Civil Law should never violate God's Law. No one should be forced to be a Christian, but all should be judged by Civil Law that is based on Christian Principles.

    Atheism is rapidly replacing Christianity as the dominate belief system in America as the disease, death, destruction and poverty of Atheism is being facilitated by ever increasing Socialistic health care/welfare/entitlement programs advocated by democrats.

    The Atheistic Liberal News and Entertainment Industry is preaching Atheism through movies/television and the judicial system is legalizing Atheistic concepts such as pornography, abortion and homosexuality.

    The only non violent method to stop the spread of Atheism is by refusing to elect democrats to public office. Atheists will continue to vote for democrats, but Christians and those that want to eliminate liabilities/evil to preserve America should take control of the Republican Party and elect only Republicans.

    Republicans should advocate Democracy, Christianity and Capitalism, because democrats advocate Democracy, Atheism and Socialism.

    Christians need to oppose Atheism by spending a little time in their prayer closet and most of their time rebuking evil/sin such as adultery and homosexuality. Christians must be political candidates because a public school system controlled by Atheists will rebuke Christianity by teaching things like Evolution Theory and Big Bang Theory. Atheists are well aware they can seduce the children of Christians and thus take control by discrediting God and the Bible.

    I believe the proper balance of assets/good and liabilities/evil is the Secularism of Civil Law being independent of God's Law, but Civil Law never violating God's Law. This is what the Blackstone concept of law represents. Anything in America that is contrary to the Bible should be taught/advocated clearly as theory until proved as fact. Theories are things that cannot be proved as fact.

    Neither the Bible nor Theory can be proved as fact, but the necessity of an unchanging defined set of rules for a society is obvious. I believe the set of rules defined by the Bible as Christianity has been proven to be the best available, and that the set of rules proposed by Atheism has been proven to produce disease, death, destruction and poverty. If you want advanced warning of evil/sin read the Bible, or just wait around for the disease, death, destruction and poverty to set in.

    For the American Christian Society to survive, Christians must retake control of the government and phase out the health care/welfare/entitlement programs that sustain and promote Atheism. Neither Christians nor the government has any responsibility to do anything for self inflicted poverty. The Church should rebuke sin/evil in obedience to God, and the State should rebuke/execute evil/sin for health, safety and economic reasons.
     
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  2. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    This doesn't have anything to do with politics or Christianity. It's nothing but a personal vendetta trying to be disguised as dialogue.
     
  3. SithDoughnut

    SithDoughnut The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist

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    Tl;dr.

    But I'm going to guess that it's the "atheism and democrats are evil, republicans and Christians are good" nonsense you keep peddling. Until you prove it your arguments are a waste of server space, so I don't know why you keep bothering.
     
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