As A born again christian you are not a sinner!!

[shaheem white]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I felt led to post this because as a Man Of God I am really troubled when I read about a Christian referring to himself/herself as a sinner. I know that one of the biggest issues we face in the body of Christ today is "Identity". and It's time for us to know who we are in Christ.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I felt led to post this because as a Man Of God I am really troubled when I read about a Christian referring to himself/herself as a sinner. I know that one of the biggest issues we face in the body of Christ today is "Identity". and It's time for us to know who we are in Christ.

Welcome to CF.

If the Apostle Paul referred to himself as the "chief of sinners", I think we can say that we are sinners.

Yes, we are also saints, but we must live with the tension that we are both, simultaneously, as Martin Luther put it.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

It depends on if the person views himself merely as a sinner or as a redeemed child of God

 

[shaheem white]

when paul said that he was referring to before his conversion my brother. understand the context. He was referring to when He was persecuting the church not after his damascus experience

 

[Solomons Porch]

 

[shaheem white]

It depends on if the person views himself merely as a sinner or as a redeemed child of God

the bible say's that we are new creations old things pass away behold old things become new... we no longer hold to the title of sinner because a sinner is one who practices sin, one who lives in sin. and as believers we died to sin, how can we live in it any longer. do we sin? yes.. but it's not a life style, it's not a practice.. it's not something that we do willingly

 

[Tigger45]

Glad you decided to join us Shaheem

The Introduce Yourself sub-forum is primary set up as a meet and greet. You'd most likely get a better response to your assertion of Christians referring to themselves as sinners in the General Theology sub-forum.

 

[Haipule]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I felt led to post this because as a Man Of God I am really troubled when I read about a Christian referring to himself/herself as a sinner. I know that one of the biggest issues we face in the body of Christ today is "Identity". and It's time for us to know who we are in Christ.

christos is an adjective and means: anointed. Yes it's time we all understand the Scriptural revelation of "en christos". To understand that we are one body anointed with a given purpose and destiny: promised and guaranteed by--I AM Who is thee Anointed-One!

 

[shaheem white]

Glad you decided to join us Shaheem

The Introduce Yourself sub-forum is primary set up as a meet and greet. You'd most likely get a better response to your assertion of Christians referring to themselves as sinners in the General Theology sub-forum.

this is how i would love to set up my meet and greet!!! HELLO SAINTS

 

[jimmyjimmy]

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[Godlovesmetwo]

My talent is closer to sinning than singing.

 

[shaheem white]

Welcome to CF.

If the Apostle Paul referred to himself as the "chief of sinners", I think we can say that we are sinners.

Yes, we are also saints, but we must live with the tension that we are both, simultaneously, as Martin Luther put it.

NO MY BROTHER, WITH ALL LOVE PASLMS 1 STATES
BLESSED IS THE ONE WHO DOES WALK IN STEP WITH WICKED
OR STAND IN THE WAY THAT "SINNERS" TAKE OR SIT IN THE
COMPANY OF MOCKERS... SO IF YOUR A SINNER THEN I'M CONSIDERED
BLESSED IF I DON'T STAND IN THE WAY YOU TAKE.
2 PETER 4:18 SAY'S "AND IF IT IS HARD FOR THE RIGHTEOUS TO BE SAVED,
WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE UNGODLY AND THE "SINNER"... MY BROTHER THERE IS A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE SINNER.. SO WE CAN NOT BE BOTH!!!!

 

[shaheem white]

My talent is closer to sinning than singing.

SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT

 

[jimmyjimmy]

.

 

[Haipule]

My talent is closer to sinning than singing.

My mom wasn't a sewing machine either!

 

[Winken]

It depends on if the person views himself merely as a sinner or as a redeemed child of God

It depends upon how God views him or her.

 

[Winken]

Greetings my brothers and sisters in Christ. I felt led to post this because as a Man Of God I am really troubled when I read about a Christian referring to himself/herself as a sinner. I know that one of the biggest issues we face in the body of Christ today is "Identity". and It's time for us to know who we are in Christ.

Check out General Theology.

 

[Winken]

NO MY BROTHER, WITH ALL LOVE PASLMS 1 STATES
BLESSED IS THE ONE WHO DOES WALK IN STEP WITH WICKED
OR STAND IN THE WAY THAT "SINNERS" TAKE OR SIT IN THE
COMPANY OF MOCKERS... SO IF YOUR A SINNER THEN I'M CONSIDERED
BLESSED IF I DON'T STAND IN THE WAY YOU TAKE.
2 PETER 4:18 SAY'S "AND IF IT IS HARD FOR THE RIGHTEOUS TO BE SAVED,
WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE UNGODLY AND THE "SINNER"... MY BROTHER THERE IS A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE SINNER.. SO WE CAN NOT BE BOTH!!!!

Turn off the caps, please. Thanks!

 

[sunshineforJesus]

Hi and its nice to meet you

 

[shaheem white]

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OK MY BROTHER LET ME BRAKE THIS DOWN FOR YOU..

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT.. don't worry that's why we fellowship, iron sharpens iron.. lets look at 1 timothy 1 ok.. that the scripture you used right? 1 timothy 1:15,16 so lets not look at one verse, lets look at the surrounding verses in it's entirety because that will explain what paul meant. verses 12-14 states "i thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, PUTTING ME INTO SERVICE, even though i was FORMERLY a BLASPHEMER and a PERSECUTOR and a VIOLENT AGGRESSOR. yet I WAS SHOWN MERCY because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; and THE GRACE OF OUR LORD WAS MORE THAN ABUNDANT, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus....now my brother was Paul saying "I'M STILL A BLASPHEMER,PERSECUTOR, AND VIOLENT AGGRESSOR? NO!!!, that would be inconsistent with all his teachings. Paul WAS CLEARLY REVIEWING HIS FORMER LIFE!!! and contrasting that with his current ministry as an apostle, proving just how deep God's mercy and grace will go to save someone acting so heinously as himself.Paul is basically saying, if God can save me, His poster child for amazing grace, He can save anybody!!!!
Let me put it this way... PAUL WOULD BE TOTALLY CONTRADICTING HIMSELF IF WHAT YOUR SAYING IS TRUE.. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME MAN THAT WROTE HE WAS DEAD TO SIN (ROM 6:6) HE WAS CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST (GAL 2:20) AND HE WAS NEW CREATION (2 COR 5:17). He is not making a case for STILL being the worst sinner in the roman empire. Rather, he's contrasting his PRESENT LIFE as a saint, who God faithfully "PUT INTO SERVICE" (verse 12), with his FORMER LIFE (verses 13-16)..

sorry so long i really needed to explain this to you my brother.. i'm not saying i don't sin anymore, i'm saying that's not who i am anymore..... IDENTITY MY BROTHER!!!