Arizona Senate Intends to Hand-Count 2.1M Maricopa County 2020 Ballots; Not Clear How

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In other words, you're just going to ignore the fact that Maricopa County Elections has already conducted two additional audits by companies who are actually qualified to do such an audit.

Note: there are NO watermarks on Arizona ballots.

Just the Facts - Maricopa County Election Updates
This time the auditors are checking the paper to make sure the ballots are legitimate. That's a big reason why Democrat attorneys are flooding Maricopa County trying to prevent the audit. Whether and to what extent they used the same tricks as were done in others states we don't yet know.
 
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This time the auditors are checking the paper to make sure the ballots are legitimate. That's a big reason why Democrat attorneys are flooding Maricopa County trying to prevent the audit. Whether and to what extent they used the same tricks as were done in others states we don't yet know.
Why would fake ballots have a watermark on them?
 
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This time the auditors are checking the paper to make sure the ballots are legitimate. That's a big reason why Democrat attorneys are flooding Maricopa County trying to prevent the audit. Whether and to what extent they used the same tricks as were done in others states we don't yet know.

...checking the paper that has no watermarks. Explain how that works.....

The CEO of Runbeck Election Services, the company that orders the ballot paper and prints ballots for the county, told The Arizona Republic on Wednesday that there are no tracking marks or watermarks on the paper they used in this election. Maricopa County's Election Department also said there are no watermarks on the paper.

Arizona election auditors are running ballots under UV light. Why?
 
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These are SWORN complaints under penalty of perjury.
So?

People lie under threat of perjury all the time. It's a notoriously difficult thing to convict someone of, because you have to prove they were lying - simply being wrong isn't perjury.
 
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...checking the paper that has no watermarks. Explain how that works.....

The CEO of Runbeck Election Services, the company that orders the ballot paper and prints ballots for the county, told The Arizona Republic on Wednesday that there are no tracking marks or watermarks on the paper they used in this election. Maricopa County's Election Department also said there are no watermarks on the paper.

Arizona election auditors are running ballots under UV light. Why?
Obviously they are checking for improprieties. A fake ballot might very well have a watermark. Why are the Democrats spending so much money trying to stop an examination? The evidence in other states suggested that fake ballots were introduced. Every state should check.
 
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Obviously they are checking for improprieties. A fake ballot might very well have a watermark. Why are the Democrats spending so much money trying to stop an examination? The evidence in other states suggested that fake ballots were introduced. Every state should check.

It's not obvious at all. There has never been any evidence suggesting ballot tampering in Arizona. None.

What is obvious is that YOU continue to make accusations based on pure speculation and innuendo. You brought up the Ten Commandments earlier in this thread. Maybe it's about time you exercise the 9th Commandment - that is, if you really take the Bible seriously.
 
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This time the auditors are checking the paper to make sure the ballots are legitimate. That's a big reason why Democrat attorneys are flooding Maricopa County trying to prevent the audit. Whether and to what extent they used the same tricks as were done in others states we don't yet know.
How do you know that the auditors aren't Antifa agents, just like the ones who stormed the Capitol and convinced everyone they were real Republicans and Trump supporters? They are apparently very tricky.

If they don't prove voter fraud I would have to assume these auditors were tampered with and replaced by lots of Antifas.
 
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Obviously they are checking for improprieties. A fake ballot might very well have a watermark. Why are the Democrats spending so much money trying to stop an examination? The evidence in other states suggested that fake ballots were introduced. Every state should check.
Why would a fake ballot have a watermark? Watermarks are something that need to be added. Why would you add something to a fake that the real things don't have?
 
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Obviously they are checking for improprieties. A fake ballot might very well have a watermark. Why are the Democrats spending so much money trying to stop an examination? The evidence in other states suggested that fake ballots were introduced. Every state should check.

Why would the people who made fake ballots put watermarks on them? That would be an obvious tell they are fake when real ballots don’t have them. This is how I know this is a conspiracy theory. It demands that I believe the enemy is both brilliantly smart (get these fake ballots counted and not caught through two audits) and also mind-numbing my stupid (an easily findable watermark on the fake ballots). Anyone smart enough to do the first isn’t stupid enough to do the second.
 
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It's not obvious at all. There has never been any evidence suggesting ballot tampering in Arizona. None.

What is obvious is that YOU continue to make accusations based on pure speculation and innuendo. You brought up the Ten Commandments earlier in this thread. Maybe it's about time you exercise the 9th Commandment - that is, if you really take the Bible seriously.
An audit is not an accusation. It is common practice for companies to conduct audits although there may be no evidence of wrongdoing. I think there should be an audit conducted in every state after every major election in order to ensure integrity.
 
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An audit is not an accusation. It is common practice for companies to conduct audits although there may be no evidence of wrongdoing. I think there should be an audit conducted in every state after every major election in order to ensure integrity.
And there were 2 in Arizona before this.
 
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An audit is not an accusation. It is common practice for companies to conduct audits although there may be no evidence of wrongdoing. I think there should be an audit conducted in every state after every major election in order to ensure integrity.

Arizona (Maricopa County) already conducted three audits (one required by law and two more...).
 
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An audit is not an accusation. It is common practice for companies to conduct audits although there may be no evidence of wrongdoing. I think there should be an audit conducted in every state after every major election in order to ensure integrity.
Right. But normally audits are done by professional neutrals. There’s good reason to suspect that these auditors are looking for excuses to declare the election wrong. I’d be happy to see a real audit.
 
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Right. But normally audits are done by professional neutrals. There’s good reason to suspect that these auditors are looking for excuses to declare the election wrong. I’d be happy to see a real audit.
They are taking extreme measures to video record the entire process, you can watch in real time online. Do you have any evidence to question their integrity?
 
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This time the auditors are checking the paper to make sure the ballots are legitimate. That's a big reason why Democrat attorneys are flooding Maricopa County trying to prevent the audit. Whether and to what extent they used the same tricks as were done in others states we don't yet know.
Ruling out of counterfeit ballots?
You’re joking.
You’re not joking.
Wow.
 
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Obviously they are checking for improprieties. A fake ballot might very well have a watermark. Why are the Democrats spending so much money trying to stop an examination? The evidence in other states suggested that fake ballots were introduced. Every state should check.
Good, I’m sure that Texas will get right on this.
 
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Why would the people who made fake ballots put watermarks on them? That would be an obvious tell they are fake when real ballots don’t have them. This is how I know this is a conspiracy theory. It demands that I believe the enemy is both brilliantly smart (get these fake ballots counted and not caught through two audits) and also mind-numbing my stupid (an easily findable watermark on the fake ballots). Anyone smart enough to do the first isn’t stupid enough to do the second.
Doubleplus goodthink!
 
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