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ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by LoveGodsWord, Oct 28, 2018.

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  1. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    Then prove it and show how I am being evasive? The scriptures that have been posted here are there for all to see. They have even been now linked in the first post of the OP here click me. If you wish to discuss any of the posts and scirptures that disagree with you than I am more than happy to do so. :)
     
  2. Kenny'sID

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    Of course, as I've said several times, I'll proceed as soon as you tell me what exactly we will be discussing, but you have refused to do that so we have nothing to talk about...literally.

    I gave you every opportunity, so when I see the full explanation of what exactly we will be discussing posted right here for all to see, I'll answer, otherwise, I would be foolish to let you waste anymore of my time.
     
  3. Kenny'sID

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    :oldthumbsup: Ain't that the truth.

    The beautiful thing about that is, his actions speak loudly, the more evasive the more loudly the truth rings out.
     
  4. LoveGodsWord

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    Then prove it and show how I am being evasive? The scriptures that have been posted here are there for all to see. They have even been now linked in the first post of the OP here click me. If you wish to discuss any of the posts and scirptures that disagree with you than I am more than happy to do so. :)
     
  5. LoveGodsWord

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    Didn't you say you want to discuss the MARK OF THE BEAST AND SEAL OF GOD? I already posted the links to you I am not sure how many times now. You seem to not want to discuss anything. Please do not pretend brother that I have not posted anything to you when I have already posted detailed scripture studies here as proven in the linked post provided below in this post and elsewhere that you are refusing to discuss.

    I have posted in detail what it is I believe in the OP and in all the linked questions in the OP here linked click me.

    For the MARK OF THE BEAST AND THE SEAL OF GOD in these linked post below..

    Q9. WHAT IS THE SIGN, THE SEAL AND THE MARK?
    Q10. WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND WHEN DO PEOPLE RECEIVE IT?
    Q11. THE SEAL OF GOD HOW DO WE GET IT?

    So there you go. It seems you do not wish to discuss anything from what I can see.
     
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  6. Lost4words

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    Your answers! You are not answering
     
  7. LoveGodsWord

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    Really? Which ones and what is not being answered?
     
  8. bekkilyn

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    Happens in every single one of these threads with every single person who disagrees. You can post page after page of scripture to no avail. You can post page after page of your own explanations and reasonings and interpretations only to be ignored with the comment, "Where's the scripture?" If you go through each scripture in detail as is asked, then you will later receive the claim that it never happened. If you accuse of deflection, there is feigned innocence of, "I don't know what you're talking about. I posted scripture, etc." Direct questions go completely unanswered or are evaded by completely unrelated copy-and-pastes of the exact thing you were *not* looking for.

    It just goes on. It makes me wonder how effective this "technique" really is when it comes to making converts because for one, direct questions aren't answered and many deflections tend to make a person appear dishonest, and for two, most people in general have the attention span of a gnat and won't read anything that takes longer than a few seconds to scan through.

    It's just all very curious.

    With that said, I tend to lean more post-tribulation myself as in there is only one rapture that happens at Christ's second coming, and not a pre-tribulation rapture that happens seven years beforehand. However, all of these different views of how/when the rapture happens, the exact nature of the mark, etc. are mostly academic to me since it really doesn't ultimately matter how it happens. What matters is being in Christ regardless.

    For example, I may doubt a pre-tribulation rapture, but if it *does* happen and I am in Christ, I would be raptured despite my doubts or lack of belief in that particular thing. What matters is my relationship with *Christ*. How and when the rapture occurs isn't the salvational element.
     
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  9. Lost4words

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    Lol....ground hog day!
     
  10. LoveGodsWord

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    Soo.. no answer. I did not think so :)
     
  11. Lost4words

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    Exactly! Lol :doh:
     
  12. LoveGodsWord

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    How can you say my answers are not answering if you cannot tell me what it is I did not answer?
     
  13. Lost4words

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    Go back and check your replies. Same old, same old.
     
  14. LoveGodsWord

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    Not really brother, I have already answered what has been asked. If you believe that is not true please show what you believe has not been answered already with God's WORD and we can discuss it if you like? If you cannot than what your saying has no truth in it.
     
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  15. Lost4words

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    Out of this thread. Too much ground hog day by OP.
     
  16. LoveGodsWord

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    Continuing on with the questions in the OP..

    Q12. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CIVIL SUNDAY LAWS ARE ALREADY HERE?


    No one receives the MARK OF THE BEAST until it is enforced under CIVIL LAW by the second BEAST (KINGDOM, NATION, GOVERNMENT) of REVELATION 13.

    REVELATION 13:11-17
    [11], And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
    [12] And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him and causes the earth and them who dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
    [13] And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    [14] And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, that had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    [15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    [16] And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    [17] And that no man might buy or sell, except he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    As shown through the scriptures earlier the MARK OF THE BEAST is over WORSHIP and breaking God’s Commandments. SIN causes the judgments of God to be received by everyone at this time to all those who continue in it. God’s 4th Commandment is one of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is if broken and is the commandment that when God says to REMEMBER *EXODUS 20:8 the whole world has forgotten because of the influence of BABYLON THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS *REVELATION 17:1-5 which represents the UNFAITHFUL MOTHER Church with UNFAITHFUL daughter Churches. God’s people however are in ALL these Churches and God is seeking to keep them out of these Churches to worship God in SPIRIT and in TRUTH *REVELATION 18:1-5. God’s true people will keep ALL THE COMMANDMENTS of GOD and have God’s Spirit *JOHN 14:15-21; REVELATION 12:17; 14:12; 22:14. The MARK OF THE BEAST is over worship *REVELATION 13:8; REVELATION 13:12; 15; REVELATION 14:7; 11. Who do we worship? Are we God’s people keeping ALL the COMAMNDMENTS of GOD or are we worshipping the BEAST and his image? God is a SPIRIT and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:24.

    Brothers and sisters, you may be thinking a NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW? That will never happen! Did you know that these very laws have already been passed in all states in the US and are now today laying dormant as official CIVIL laws that are currently not enforced? All it would take would be a stroke of the pen to enforce them. Want proof? These are called the BLUE LAWS you can read about them in..

    *BLUE LAWS WIKIPEDIA CLICK ME.

    Are you ready for the MARK OF THE BEAST? God’s sheep will hear his VOICE (the Word)

    May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
     
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  17. ItIsFinished!

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    Friend the rapture does not happen at the Second Coming of Christ, it happens before.
    They are two distinct events .
    At the rapture (the removal of the Church) the dead in Christ since Pentacost and present believers meet the Lord in the air/clouds.
    At the Second Coming of Christ , He literally sets foot on the Mount of Olives before Jerusalem.
    Two 100% different and distinct awesome events that obviously have not happened yet.
    In one event He takes us (the Church ) away, in the other event we come back with Him .
    Like I said , two strikingly , different, distinct events.
    The Church will not be here during the tribulation whatsoever.
    I'm quite baffled as to why there is so much confusion and division over this topic.
    It is a wonderful blessing for those who are part of the Church.
    The Groom (Jesus Christ) removes the Bride (The Church) before the Groom unleashes divine judgment against a rejecting, rebellious, unbelieving world where humanity has reached its peak of decadence and depravity.
    Absolutely pre-trib rapture friend.
    The Bride will not be subjected to the Grooms wrath.
    Rejoice friend! Rejoice!!!

    All glory be to God now and forever!
     
  18. LoveGodsWord

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    The MARK OF THE BEAST is over worship. Let's look at the scriptures...

    REVELATION 13:8
    [8], And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    REVELATION 13:12-16;
    [12], And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them who dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
    [13], And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    [14], And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, that had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    [15], And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
    [16], And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads

    REVELATION 14:7-12.
    [7], Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment has come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
    [8], And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
    [9], And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
    [10], The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out undiluted into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
    [11], And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receives the mark of his name.
    [12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    God’s 4th COMMANDMENT is one of the 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN AND RIGHTOEUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

    If we KNOWINGLY break any one of God’s 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. God’s 4th Commandment is the ONLY commandment that is a MEMORIAL of creation and a call to worship GOD as the creator of heaven and earth. Nearly all mankind has forgotten God’s 4th commandment.

    There is not one scripture in all of God’s WORD that says God’s 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a HOLY day.

    …………….

    CONCLUSION: God’s commandments are the standard of GOOD AND EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; PSALMS 119:172. The whole world has neglected God’s 4th Commandment despite there being not a single scripture for it’s change. We are to whoship God as the creator of heaven and earth. This is a call back to REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY, TO KEEP IT HOLY. God’s 4th commandment is one of the 10 commandments. If we KNOWINGLY break it just like any of the other commandments we commit sin and sin will keep all those who KNOWINGLY practice it out of God’s KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; HEBREWS 6:4-8; JAMES 2:10-11.

    God bless...
     
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  19. bekkilyn

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    Well I recall the word "rapture" means being "caught up" or being taken up or something to that effect, so if it happens as you say before a seven year period of tribulation, or it happens at the time of Jesus' second coming when people are caught up to meet him in the cloud, it's still a rapture all the same. The argument is really just when this rapture actually takes place.

    It's not a salvational argument though...that was my point. Regardless of when we are "caught up" to meet Christ, the main point is that we need to be *in* Christ and will therefore be ready whenever and however it all happens!
     
  20. ItIsFinished!

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    I saw the point you were making and I agree with you that all of us need to be ready.
    And, by ready I mean saved by Jesus Christ which I am and believe you are as well.
    It should definitely create an urgency to share the gospel (and live it) to a lost and dying world.
    I love that you focus on Jesus Christ and the need to be redeemed by Him as to by ready when He comes to take His Bride away .
    Amen.
     
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