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[TheReasoner]

Heard of the Tau Zero foundation? It's a volunteer group of scientists and engineers who are working on the next step in human expansion; The stars!
I am not a member - yet. But I do want to see if I can contribute.
Do you want to?
Tau Zero Foundation

 

[GrowingSmaller]

No I am not. But I did read the sci-fi nook "Tal Zero" about intergalactic travel. Any connection?

 

[TheReasoner]

No I am not. But I did read the sci-fi nook "Tal Zero" about intergalactic travel. Any connection?

The foundation is named Tau Zero after a novel by the same name. Written by Poul Anderson.

 

[juvenissun]

Heard of the Tau Zero foundation? It's a volunteer group of scientists and engineers who are working on the next step in human expansion; The stars!
I am not a member - yet. But I do want to see if I can contribute.
Do you want to?
Tau Zero Foundation

I think this is worse than buying an acre of land on the moon.

In order to do that, we have to first see a frozen person wakes up on the earth.

 

[Theofane]

Going to the stars has nothing to do with human expansion if we take all our fallen sinful ways with us. People need to expand spiritually without leaving their Google Maps co-ordinates.

 

[Theofane]

Arrive without travelling.

 

[TheReasoner]

Going to the stars has nothing to do with human expansion if we take all our fallen sinful ways with us. People need to expand spiritually without leaving their Google Maps co-ordinates.

False dilemma. We can do both. And, we're doing better as a civilization now than we ever have before. Some setbacks now and again, sure. But by and large, better. If we should stop doing everything until we've got it right spiritually... Well, we won't be able to do anything. Ever.Which you know full well I suspect. But it is in journeys like this, the search for solutions to real problems that solutions to other problems arise, and development of our civilization occurs. Be that ideologically, scientifically or technologically.

I think this is worse than buying an acre of land on the moon.

In order to do that, we have to first see a frozen person wakes up on the earth.

And why would that be? No-one said anything about cryostasis. There are many ways to colonize. We could send sex cells and with enough automation we could conceivably get a civilization going from that. Or we could use generation ships. No cryostasis necessary. And there are a number of theoretical drives which probably won't but may pan out, enabling travel at superluminal speeds. The alcubierre drive is one such.
Regardless,you presented a false dilemma juve. We don't have to wait until we get everything panned out and planned to the smallest possible detail. This is a project which will take a loooong time if we want to get it done. We should start now, and by start I don't mean building ships. I mean we need to colonize the moon, get a presence out there. Get working on the problems related to interstellar flight. Consider different angles, possibilities and then when we have viable options and available resources we should go. Even if the likelihood of success is really low, say 75% or so.
This isn't a project we're likely to complete in our lifetime. If you want that kind of instantaneous gratification you're better off in Hollywood than in the real world anyway.

 

[Elendur]

Heard of the Tau Zero foundation? It's a volunteer group of scientists and engineers who are working on the next step in human expansion; The stars!
I am not a member - yet. But I do want to see if I can contribute.
Do you want to?
Tau Zero Foundation

Thank you for this interesting discussion and site

 

[TheReasoner]

Thank you for this interesting discussion and site

I take it the Scandinavian explorer type is alive and well in your heart, too, Elendur?

 

[Elendur]

I take it the Scandinavian explorer type is alive and well in your heart, too, Elendur?

Exploring is one way to learn and I love to learn, so that's definitely a yes

 

[GrowingSmaller]

If we're going to built to the stars, then the foundations need to be steadfast and deep.

 

[AV1611VET]

If we're going to built to the stars, then the foundations need to be steadfast and deep.

Sounds like scientists have gone back to building the Tower of Babel.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

 

[Elendur]

Sounds like scientists have gone back to building the Tower of Babel.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

I'm rather a reaching fool than a content learned.

 

[TheReasoner]

Sounds like scientists have gone back to building the Tower of Babel.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

You need one of these it seems like, concerning your proverb:

I mean, don't you get tired of your one-shot insults? Running from thread to thread delivering one-line insults and name calling without ever supplying an explanation, or ever issuing an apology?

Anyway, if you think that story was about building a tall structure.... Well, perhaps you need to re-read it, AV. Talk about missing the point!

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Sounds like scientists have gone back to building the Tower of Babel.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

Actually I don't mingd hearing that. Those proverbs usually have sense and wisdom in them, and it reminds me of this from Muhammed:

"Someone who takes back a gift is like a dog returning to its own vomit".

 

[Radagast]

The foundation is named Tau Zero after a novel by the same name. Written by Poul Anderson.

One of the classics. Pity they never filmed it.

 

[Orogeny]

Yes, I am!

 

[Elendur]

Hmm.. I had heard about new modules being added to ISS, special modules that was inflatable.
I can't seem to find them in the wiki though:

Is it just that they haven't added those yet or have I gotten it wrong?

 

[Trogool]

Heard of the Tau Zero foundation? It's a volunteer group of scientists and engineers who are working on the next step in human expansion; The stars!
I am not a member - yet. But I do want to see if I can contribute.
Do you want to?
Tau Zero Foundation

Um, so how are us "volunteer scientists" supposed to join?

 

[TheReasoner]

Um, so how are us "volunteer scientists" supposed to join?

Here:
Tau Zero Foundation (Links to contact page)

As it says:
"Potential Practitioners
And lastly, if you are already an established professional whose work might aid this cause (day job or self-motivated), please alert us to your peer-reviewed publications."