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Featured Are we seeing the end of the (dis) United States?

Discussion in 'Current News & Events (Articles Required)' started by Aussie Pete, Jan 9, 2021.

  1. Valletta

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    The Washington establishment is corrupt. I've personally dealt with it for years. Most people have no idea how corrupt. That political leaders consider themselves elite and above the people has been so evident in the making of rules and regulations that they so commonly get caught breaking. Trump was an outsider who not only did not pay homage to the politicians or the major media, but who called them out. Thus there is great hatred for him, but even though the media is able to gain to many followers with their skilled propaganda Trump won the election if you count only legitimate votes. They fear Trump, they know he won the election and they know he will win again without intervention--that is why they want him impeached, so he can't run again. And they have complete contempt for those who dare support him. His personality of not backing down infuriates and scares them. Power corrupts, now they are trying to silence voices. The left has a lot of money and big tech behind them, this may be one of the last messages you see from me. Twitter, YouTube, Yahoo, Apple, Facebook, all are trying to shut down the truth. The details of the election fraud may come out and they don't want the masses knowing the truth. While it is well known that many patriots fled to Parler that will not be allowed to go on for long. The smaller ones like Christian Forums may end up that way. Pray for our country and the world.
     
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  2. Andrewn

    Andrewn Well-Known Member CF Ambassadors Supporter

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  3. Erik Nelson

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    Per Dan Bongino:
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    People flee socialist states (for freer ones). People flee Communist countries (for free enterprise ones). How does such a misery-making ideology keep getting "pushed" into communities, onto peoples?
     
  4. QvQ

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    Ah, I see..allies and yes, politics in the US do affect that. In that case, I don't believe that this internal turmoil will affect US foreign policy as the military is actually more independent in America than in other countries. In order to have a standing military, it must have internal cohesion and goals that can't be changed every 4 years by the next President. Also, the President, in reality, cannot institute any action on the whim of the President. So, our policy toward Australia would be the military which would honor any commitment regardless of internal politics.
     
  5. QvQ

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    I am a Christian first and yes, the commenters have the right to do so. However, there is no end of analysis and advise, criticism actually, about what Americans should or could be doing. As I said, I could write an article about the problems of an antiquated monarchy and suggest the Brits abolish the institution but is that really my place as commentator.
    Also, I have no objection to the posting of this article. It was an interesting read. It is merely the foreigners observing us quaint natives, our unique customs and critiquing our culture. However as the native, I find it a bit odd, the conclusions and suggestions.
     
  6. Redwingfan9

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    Both sides here in the US have turned politics into their god, which is why both sides are in utter hysterics when their candidate loses.

    The broader problem is that the mainstream press, tech giants and academia have declared that one side of the political debate must be silenced. One side of the debate is declared violent and dangerous and anyone who happens to have supported Trump or Republicans is declared an an enabler and therefore by extension guilty of inciting insurrection. When it is pointed out that Antifa and BLM did the exact same things the tech giants respond by silencing one side but not the other.

    The left has their own complaints but the fact that they control the mainstream press, Hollywood, every single major university and nearly all of the minor ones and the tech companies is significant. It means they control the culture and anyone who speaks against them will be silenced, or at least that's as it appears this week. I would expect the Trump crowd will be focused on that issue going forward.

    The other thing at play from the Trump camp is that they have a significant distrust of the entire system. It isn't just a distust of allegedly neutral vote counters in blue states, they don't trust them in red states either. They don't believe their voice is heard, the utter arrogance and dismissiveness of the left only bolsters their view. This is incredibly dangerous because these people have nothing to lose. If their lives are being destroyed by government, their votes not counted and the culture dismisses them it's an invitation for the sort of foolishness we saw last Wednesday.
     
  7. Aussie Pete

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    I hope you are right. I have a lot of respect for America and I like Americans in general. It saddens me to see the kinds of changes that have taken place over the last 30 years or so.
     
  8. Maria Billingsley

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    The Kingdom of God is not of this world. God knows the hearts of men and women. Nations are no longer of God, only the chosen who are in the Body of Christ, those who choose Him and not the things of this world. So no fretting, the Kingdom is at hand and only individual people dwell in it not nations. Be blessed.
     
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  9. aiki

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    The CBC is flat-out Leftist State media. I never listen to it. It is exactly in the vein of CNN, or MSNBC, etc.
     
  10. aiki

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    The mainstream media and Democrats have turned up the heat on Trump, determined to make his presidency appear as morally-corrupt and fascist as they possibly can - and as the Dems actually are. The Dems and mainstream media have taken up this tactic - which, shockingly, seems to be working on many people - of accusing Trump of the very things of which they are most guilty. At least in part, their goal is to demonstrate to all that, if they have the power to so viciously railroad the POTUS, they have the power to do much worse to any individual American. Of course, the Dems serve notice to all Republican politicians, too, that strongly countering Leftist progressivism (aka Marxist communism) will be met with the enormous coordinated power, not just of the Dems, but of mainstream media and Big Tech (Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc). Resistance to the Dems's Leftism will be countered now with merciless slander, political shenanigans, and legal strong-arming.

    The American Union of States cannot survive this sort of political fascism. Too many Americans despise the nascent Communism of the Left and will not be brought under it. There will, I think, be either secession of States from the Union, or civil war.

    China waits at the door with 3 million troops for the States to be weakened sufficiently for it to be overtaken and brought under its power. Not long now, if things continue down the Leftist path the Dems are promoting.
     
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  11. timothyu

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    US'ers are quite capable of destroying themselves without outside help or analysis, advice, or criticism.
     
  12. timothyu

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    That's what happens when the self entitled of minorities become employees and make it over in their own image. Neutrality is gone and their cry for equality becomes one of authoritarianism. How human of them.
     
  13. timothyu

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    Does that mean American industry can return home from China and be run with slave wages? An American capitalist's dream. The same dream of the WEF.
     
  14. QvQ

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    I am certain that if an ally needed help, Americans would forget their internal squabbles and give any necessary aid.
    For instance, we have a very close alliance with the British Navy. That is a treaty of long standing. No matter what the internal politics or who is President, those treaties govern the military as commitments of the US government from administration to administration.
    The US seems unstable but the US is designed to be very flexible politically. The Constitution is a framework, actually a very simple document but it has served us well
     
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  15. timothyu

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    There seems to have been a lot of attempts lately over the last 20 years to circumvent it along with reducing freedoms it gives to the people. Perhaps the goal is to make it over in the image of the money lenders and corporate minions rather than of the people. Welcome back to a different kind of monarchy.
     
  16. mourningdove~

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    No, it will not blow over.
    At least 75 million Americans still believe in the policies that Donald Trump stood for.
    The new administration is planning to radically change America.
    They plan to reverse most, if not all, things that Donald Trump has done.
    And they plan to do it quickly.
    ... that is what they have said.

    Yes, the issues that led to Donald Trump's election have not been resolved.

    I'm sorry that I cannot prove you wrong.
     
  17. timothyu

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    So the game of tit for tat continues with each administration and nothing else gets done? Why do people put up with this nonsense that never ends. Perhaps they deserve what they get. It's like an endless game of am too, am not. Perhaps politicians play to an immature audience.
     
  18. mourningdove~

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    Many Americans are concerned for the US society as a whole. We are seeing things happening here now that many of us never thought we would see happening in our lifetimes.

    I believe many American Christians would agree with Francis Chan. I do.

    America is in great need of spiritual revival.
    I do not say that as if to be simply repeating some Christian 'cliche'. It is true.
    The coming persecution will do much to bring it ...
    and many will turn to the Lord.
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  19. timothyu

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    As I said in another thread... Jesus is President of an entirely different system and government than anything man comes up with. He is an outside threat and His system will destroy man's system soon enough. Left and right will finally unite to battle Him.
     
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  20. QvQ

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    The politicians are now movie stars. The Russian Collusion Daily TV Series, much more media face time and attention than the budget. The budget was voted on within hours of its arrival and no one read it. Budgets are work to read, difficult to debate, and essentially boring.
    Impeachment hearings are theatre and give politicians a chance to pontificate on live TV like Schiff and Co. filled the screens for years.
    Everyone is stepping up to the cameras over this next impeachment drama. Puff up and declaim "Well, I think" but not about the budget.
     
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