Are we saved by Works, or Faith Alone?

[boxman144]

Hello all, I'm back with our friend again,

Recently he posted this video. Are we saved by works, faith and works, or faith alone?

I'd like you guys to be respectful in the comments please, and gently rebuke. Thanks,


boxman144

 

[Sabertooth]

We are saved by permeating faith; by faith that follows the leading of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Albion]

Faith Alone.

 

[d taylor]

Do not need to watch a video, the Bible states it correctly in The Gospel of John many times 15+

A person is given Eternal Life (God's Life) when they believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah from the prophecies of the Tanakh, and trust in The Messiah for the free gift of Eternal Life.

To have Eternal Life you have to go to the person who is Eternal Life and there is only one.

 

[Allen of the Cross]

For it is by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. That's Ephesians 2:8-9. Now, God has ordained for us certain works to carry out, but these works are not where our salvation comes from, and aren't necessary for salvation according to Romans 4:5.

That's how I understand salvation, and that's why I put all my trust in Jesus, and not of any of the works that have been ordained for me.

 

[Der Alte]

Faith alone. But,

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.​

 

[Goodhuman]

St. Seraphim of Sarov said that human is saved only by works.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

We are saved by works alone.
Christ works alone.
Book of Romans explains it well.
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[Albion]

St. Seraphim of Sarov said that human is saved only by works.

No need to know Christ or believe in him, then?

 

[Goodhuman]

I believe everyone believe in him because he is God. But we must follow his way in order to be saved.

 

[Noxot]

The Schism of faith and works is like having spiritual schizophrenia. It's not healthy. Both are the same thing. It's like trying to argue if God is love or if God is wisdom.

Being is both intention and action. A seed grows into what it is to grow into and it produces the fruits of that which it is.

 

[JulieB67]

This is so true. We are saved by faith. But if one is truly saved, the works will come.

 

[HARK!]

(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness

(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.

(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."

(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

We’re saved by who were yoked to, Christ being the way, truth and light.

 

[HARK!]

Faith alone. But,
James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

So we're saved by dead faith alone? I'm not buying it.


(CLV) Php 2:12
So that, my beloved, according as you always obey, not as in my presence only, but now much rather in my absence, with fear and trembling, be carrying your own salvation into effect,

 

[Dkh587]

We are saved by God’s favor, which is manifested in our life through faith/trust that produces obedience to God’s law

 

[Der Alte]

So were saved by dead faith alone? I'm not buying it.
(CLV) Php 2:12
So that, my beloved, according as you always obey, not as in my presence only, but now much rather in my absence, with fear and trembling, be carrying your own salvation into effect,

You don't believe scripture? Here is what I said.

[Saved by]Faith alone. But,
James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.​

What part of that do you think is wrong?

 

[Dkh587]

(CLV) Gn 15:6
Now Abram believed on Elohim, and He reckoned it to him for righteousness

(CLV) Gn 26:5
inasmuch as your father Abraham hearkened to My voice and kept My charge, My instructions, My statutes and My laws.

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.

(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."

(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.

I think part of the problem is that people don’t understand that when Paul says we are saved by faith, and not works of the law, that Paul is saying we are saved by faith that produces obedience to God’s law, and not saved by obedience to man’s law, aka the oral law.

Faith, to the writers of the Scriptures, is obedience to God’s prophets & commandments

 

[HARK!]

You don't believe scripture? Here is what I said.

[Saved by]Faith alone. But,
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Here is what you said:​

Faith alone. But,

I can find this statement nowhere in scripture.

 

[Der Alte]

Here is what you said:​

I can find this statement nowhere in scripture.

You didn't look.

Luke 7:50
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
Luke 18:42
42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.
Ephesians 2:8
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
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