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Are we allowed to partake in Christmas?

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by llopez88, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. 1John2:4

    1John2:4 Well-Known Member

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    Jesus is supposed to be our teacher and His words are the Bible. The Bible is His Word, Jesus is the Word and the Word is TRUTH. So much devision has occurred because of these docrines created by false teachers, yes I agree we listen to the apostles, the ones in the Bible. I see you are Catholic, is it your belief that the Pope is the one we gleen our truth from instead of the Bible? Do you believe we follow the pope instead of the Bible? I am not trying to be insulting I just want to know if this is what you believe.
     
  2. Jan001

    Jan001 Newbie Supporter

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    Jesus' Church has authority from God to explain to us what its own Scriptures mean. The current pope is the successor of the apostle Peter and so he is the ultimate head of Jesus' Church on earth. The other bishops who are in union with the pope are called the magisterium of Jesus' Church. Jesus puts the people in authority who He wants to lead His Church.

    Luke 10:16
    He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” nkjv
    There is no command in the NT Scriptures for people who are not bishops to self-determine what Jesus' Church's teachings mean. There is no such thing as "Scripture Alone" in Jesus' Church. The Church was created first. The leaders of Jesus' Church wrote letters, histories, etc. to help to teach the faith of Jesus Christ. Their letters were never meant to replace their oral teachings. Their letters, histories, etc. are supplements to the faith they teach; they are not a replacement for their oral teachings.

    2 Thessalonians 2:15
    So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. rsv
     
  3. Aaron Schoenberger

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    Trust in Jesus. Jesus tells me that my Bible is the true Word of God.

    Proverbs 9:10
    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
    And knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

    My family has been christian for many years and in the past have celebrated Christmas, but this year we will not because you are right, it is a pagan holiday.
    What fellowship does the light have with darkness? We are not of this world and the world does not know us because it did not know the Father.

    Best advice. Do what the Book says.

    James 1:22
    Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

    Trust and enjoy Jesus Christ. He is better than all the holidays combined.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2017
  4. teresa

    teresa Well-Known Member Supporter

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    ^amen Aaron, trust jesus is the answer. I will no longer celebrate it either for the first time in my life. It is so about insane amounts of gifts and glorify s glitter, gold and materialistic things, all not of our Jesus.

    However, there is joy in giving, so in the season of giving, why not give gifts to charities and hospitals?

    Also, last year I was cold and a christian sister came over and found use for her former mothers old blanket that she no longer wanted.

    When I cuddle up with that blanket, I feel her love (my christian sisters) and it feels like a hug.

    It just happened to be around Christmas that this happened.

    No reason to not give to food panties or soup kitchens, homeless shelters or animal shelters as well.
     
  5. christopheralan88

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    You're right that it is a pagan holiday. Some people like to debate this by trying to trace the source of Christmas through different cultures - German, English, American, Egyptian, Babylonian, etc. What these cultures all have in common is that they are all pagan nations. Also, if God didn't tell us to keep Christmas (which He didn't), then where did Christmas come from? If it's not from God, then it has to have come from the pagan nations.

    God tells us not to learn the ways of the pagans/nations and not to worship Him with those ways (Deuteronomy 12:29-32 and Deuteronomy 12:1-4) and He has not changed His mind on that (Numbers 23:19).

    God told us to keep His appointed times, feast days, and Sabbaths (Passover, Unleavened Bread, Shavuot, Trumpets, Yom Kippur, Tabernacles, and the weekly Sabbath) instead. And they are often described as for all generations (ex: Exodus 12:17) and we'll be keeping them in the future Temple (Ezekiel 45:21).

    I'm glad your eyes are being opened to the truth about Christmas!
     
  6. SteveCaruso

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    Folks keep on saying this, but they're only getting hung up on some folk trappings (Christmas trees, etc.) that originated among devout *Lutherans* in the 1600-1700s, and fake parallels with Roman holidays that had already been dead for 1000 years.

    The Feast of the Nativity (i.e. Christmas) has always been a Christian observance.
     
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