FreeGrace2
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I said:
And you haven't shown any.
Eph 1;1314-
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
That, I did.You were doing just fine until you added after the first one, "we are saved by believing in Christ".
No, there is no assumption in my statement. It is a fact. We are saved by believing in Christ. No further things to do.There is an assumption in the above statement. That in the eye of the commentator that I am correct in one area and wrong in another.
And you haven't shown any.
It seems to me that you are confusing how to get saved with "a walk with Christ". Why do you think they are one and the same?I sincerely wish in a few sentences a walk with Christ can be summarised correctly. This propensity to judgement is damaging.
It seems you are also confusing/conflating love with how to get saved.What matters in love?
The Bible tells us to be discerning, not judgmental. And I discern a confusion in your posts.The truths we hold, the way we live, the love we share? At what point can someone call us out fairly and be right, or too soon and fall into the trap of judgementalism?
We are brothers and sisters in Christ IF we both have been united IN Christ by the sealing with the Holy Spirit, on the basis of having believed.For me I try and listen to peoples story and way of expressing everything, because I am often wrong and too hasty, and find the way they express their heart of Jesus different to mine, yet we are brothers and sisters in Christ.
Eph 1;1314-
13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
So when someone wishes to correct me so quickly, and disown my heart and walk in Christ, I am saddened and fearful that the enemy is at work here.[/QUOT]
How does one "disown someone else's heart"? What I've done is note errors and made corrections. If you take that as having your heart disowned, then I believe you have a problem.
Absolutely yes!! And this is spiritual growth, not being born again. I hope you see the difference. All who have been born again through faith in Christ are commanded to grow up in their faith. That's the only way to become Christ-like.Simply put are we called to righteous walking, to walk as Jesus walked, to be Holy, pure, without fault or blemish?
Are you asking if we are called to stumble? Of course not. We are warned against it.Yes like all children we might stumble and fall, need to pick ourselves up and walk on in faith and love, but are we called to these things?
Of course not.If not are we called therefore to sinful walking, to be part of the world and friends with those who hate God and His ways?
Of course every believer is faced with these choices, which Paul summarized quite clearly in Romans 6-It strikes me this is a binary choice, reflected by the whole of scripture.
11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness.
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!
16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
Wow! Talk about "assumptions"! You are assuming that I am or have "justified my compromises", and even that I HAVE compromises, and all without a shred of evidence.Do you want to stand before the King of Kings and justify your compromises before Him on that day or humble yourself and become open to His Spirit and word to lead you into life and His ways?
Hm. Kinda reminds me of the whole Kavanaugh debacle, where the far left presumes guilt simply on the basis of a flimsy allegation.
If you believe I have "compromises" and that I have "justified" any of them, it is your obligation to list them by quoting from my posts.
So, where is your evidence?
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