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Are there any Christians that don't believe in Creationism out there?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by MikePTL, May 18, 2017.

  1. JackRT

    JackRT Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There are contradictions found in the three versions of the Ten Commandments contained in the Bible (Exodus 34:1-28, Exodus 20:1-17, Deuteronomy 5:1-21). How can all three versions be true if they are not the same? Exodus 34, the oldest version at about 950 BC, is from the pen of the “J” or Jahwist writer and is not one of which many have ever heard. The final commandment in this earliest version reads “You shall not boil a kid in its mother’s milk.” Why, we are led to wonder, was this original set of Ten Commandments rejected or replaced? The second version Exodus 20, from about 850 BC, was from the pen of the “E” or Elohist writer, but was greatly expanded about 560 BC by a group of people called the “P” or priestly writers. Did these writers, who added so much to the entire body of the Jewish Scriptures, do so because they judged the original version to be so woefully inadequate that it required major additions and editing? Does one alter or tamper with what one believes to be “The Word of God?” The third version, Deuteronomy 5 in about 625 BC, was from the pen of the “D” or Deuteronomic writers composed somewhere between the original writing of Exodus 20 and the expansion done on that same text some 400 or so years later. For example, the version in Deuteronomy did not offer as the reason the Sabbath must be observed the fact that God rested on the Sabbath, for the version of that seven day creation story had not yet been written. So this author states that the Sabbath is to be observed because the people of Israel must remember that they were once slaves in Egypt and even slaves must have a day of rest. Which of these versions of the Ten Commandments, we might ask, can qualify as “The Word of God?”
     
  2. Speedwell

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    False. I have never told any Christian nor any other person any such thing.
     
  3. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Point taken -- for after all, what's a Christian without a literal Bible?
     
  4. Speedwell

    Speedwell Well-Known Member

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    A mainline Protestant, an Anglican, a Roman Catholic, a member of an Orthodox or Oriental church--there are lots of options.
     
  5. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Precisely. There are lots of options.
     
  6. FreeinChrist

    FreeinChrist CF Advisory team Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    MOD HAT

    This thread is closed. This area is supposed to have been closed in 2014. Not sure how it got reopened.
     
  7. DarylFawcett

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    ADMIN HAT ON!!!!!

    Thread moved and re-opened.

    ADMIN HAT OFF!!!!!
     
  8. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    I believe in Creationism.

    I do not believe in Intelligent Design.
     
  9. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A mythologist.
     
  10. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Not a bad thing to be.
     
  11. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    They myth too many points.
     
  12. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Not true, AV -- they see the bigger picture because they study books, not worship them.
     
  13. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    Fiction is larger than truth, and as it grows, truth gets harder and harder to see.

    Eventually people stop looking.

    And for those who don't, truth becomes harder to find.

    Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
     
  14. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Some stop looking because it's difficult; other stop looking because they think they've already found it.

    Which one are you, AV?
     
  15. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Everything has it's place. The important thing to remember is that the Bible is literal and based on what they are now calling Paradigm. With the Bible creationists have a degree of agreement on what paradigm we are going to use. Evolutionists have conflicting paradigms.
     
  16. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It is against the rules to answer that question.
     
  17. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Wouldn't that have to be true for it to be an important thing to remember? And who is this nebulous "they"?
     
  18. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Whose rules?
     
  19. Speedwell

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    I answered it already in post #124:

    "A mainline Protestant, an Anglican, a Roman Catholic, a member of an Orthodox or Oriental church--there are lots of options."

    Since I broke the rules, why don't you report me?
     
  20. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    My answer would have been a violation of the rules. I fact they tell me that there are times that it is against the rules just to quote the Bible.
     
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