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Are their modern examples of people speaking in tongues, healing, etc...?

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by FriendlyJosh, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. FriendlyJosh

    FriendlyJosh Newbie

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    Like there was in The Bible?
     
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  2. Merlin

    Merlin Paradigm Buster

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    I do, as many of us do also.
     
  3. FriendlyJosh

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    I'm sorry, you do what?
     
  4. sylverpiano

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    I have seen reports of this type of thing, and one hears about it, but I have never seen any credible evidence that the healing has actually happened. I have been to Pentecostal services where people were purportedly speaking in tongues, but I am unable to judge whether or not it was some legitimate spiritual experience or just an act.
     
  5. Ave Maria

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    I think you will find instances of praying in tongues at many Charismatic Catholic Prayer Meetings as well as Charismatic Masses and sometimes Healing Masses that are associated with the Charismatic Catholic Renewal.
     
  6. sylverpiano

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    I have not been to a Charismatic Catholic service, but I do not doubt your word. What I meant by my post was that I was unable to judge for myself the authenticity of the experience.
     
  7. Rhamiel

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    St. Padre Pio was said to have healed several people
     
  8. LivingWordUnity

    LivingWordUnity Unchanging Deposit of Faith, Traditional Catholic

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    I agree with sylverpiano that it is practically impossible for us to judge that the experience of speaking in tongues is authentic. That's why St. Paul, although not condemning it, placed a low priority on it.

    As for a saint having the gift of healing others, St. André Bessette of Montreal, Canada is a major example.
     
  9. sylverpiano

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    Hey there, LWU!

    I speak English of course, and I have some fluency in Italian from my mother. I have been able to bring about about the same level of fluency in Spanish due to my workforce. From my father, I also speak a little Hebrew.

    Put all of that together, and with some practice I could maybe convince someone that I was Spirit filled and speaking in tongues.

    If I could do it, I am sure others could
     
  10. LivingWordUnity

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    I struggle with trying to learn Spanish which people say is supposed to be easy.
     
  11. RKO

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    I don't want to derail the thread, but to the person who says they speak in tongues: Is it identifiable as a language? Because I have only heard it on video tapes from evangelical churches and honestly, it just sounds like they are making up gibberish.

    Does anybody ever speak, say, aramaic?
     
  12. sylverpiano

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    I learned my Italian as a child from my Mom. Italian and Spanish are very similar, and all but two of my employees are Hispanic. Just the immersion has polished my Spanish up. The Hebrew is much harder. I only know a few phrases from the various services I attend with my Brother and his family.
     
  13. mark46

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    I guess the pope and Catholic Charismatic Renewal have a long way to go before most Catholics accept that the charisms are part of the Church. Several popes have supported the renewal. Pope Francis welcome the Renewal to Rome last year and will again at the 50th anniversary of the formal organization in 2017.

    The CCR is present in 230 countries and totals over 100 million. It is very important in the Church in South America and Africa.

    Pope Francis & the Charismatic Renewal: Q&A with Patti Gallagher Mansfield | America Magazine

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal
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    See below from the letter from Pope JPII at the 25th anniversary.

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-p...f_jp-ii_spe_19920314_charismatic-renewal.html
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    Also,

    In March 1992, Pope John Paul II stated

    At this moment in the Church's history, the Charismatic Renewal can play a significant role in promoting the much-needed defense of Christian life in societies where secularism and materialism have weakened many people's ability to respond to the Spirit and to discern God's loving call. Your contribution to the re-evangelization of society will be made in the first place by personal witness to the indwelling Spirit and by showing forth His presence through works of holiness and solidarity.[15]

    Moreover, during Pentecost 1998, the Pope recognized the essential nature of the charismatic dimension:

    "The institutional and charismatic aspects are co-essential as it were to the Church’s constitution. They contribute, although differently, to the life, renewal and sanctification of God’s People. It is from this providential rediscovery of the Church’s charismatic dimension that, before and after the Council, a remarkable pattern of growth has been established for ecclesial movements and new communities."[16]

    The Papal Preacher, Rev. Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa, has written on the topic numerous times since 1986.[17]
     
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  14. Merlin

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    Are their modern examples of people speaking in tongues, healing, etc...? Like there was in The Bible?
     
  15. Fantine

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    There have been some priests who have conducted "healing ministries."

    One was, I believe, Fr. Dennis Kelleher of the Marian Healing Ministry (now deceased). He gave Masses primarily in metropolitan NY and Chicago.

    One of my pastors in St. Louis was very involved in charismatic ministry and used to pray over people for the "healing of memories." I am sure that often our physical illnesses can be healed if our memories are healed.

    I find the whole 'speaking in tongues' phenomenon uninteresting. When I read Acts, I think they are actually talking about speaking in different languages, not some sort of echolalia...

    In my head I file it among other totally useless skills--like cracking ones knuckles or being able to touch your nose with your tongue.

    When I learned about the gifts of the Holy Spirit, I prayed that if I received such gifts that they would be useful and productive.
     
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  17. JimR-OCDS

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    When I returned to the Church back in 1976, I went to a healing service by Fr Ralph DiOrio.

    When the service began, he and many in the congregation began singing in tongues. It literally sounded like heaven opened up and I could hear the angles praising God.

    It was beautiful.

    Jim
     
  18. mark46

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    I too have been at some of Fr DiOrio's healing services. See below for a current schedule.

    http://www.rdohealingministry.org/whats-new/general-information/
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    As an aside, it seems that so many here are caught up with "speaking in tongues", even when St Paul said that this is least of the charismatic gifts (but still a charismatic gift).

    I was taught that there are three related gifts related to tongues: speaking, singing and praying. The first is where so many cautions have been given, as should be the case. Such proclamations require an interpreter.

    I have seen many of the gifts manifested, but NOT speaking in tongues.
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    I often wonder why folks reject all the other charismatics gifts of the spirit because they reject one aspect of the least among these gifts.
     
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    This is their website. The Basilica is stunning inside. Check out the gallery.


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