Are Mormons Christians?

[onetruechurch4]

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend members of the LDS church in anyway. This is just a simple discussion of people on the internet.

I just wanted to see what CF thinks. My Church officially does not recognize Mormons as valid Christians. I know certain Evangelicals and liberal Christian groups may have different opinions. What are your thoughts?

If you believe them not to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you do believe them to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you are Mormon, what is your view of orthodox Christians?

As already stated, my Church does not accept Mormons as Christians, and I hold to that. Reason? Their beliefs are the Trinity are highly unorthodox. Their idea of the "Godhead" is more akin to a polytheistic doctrine than the monotheism of Christianity.

 

[WebersHome]

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If someone wishes to go head to head with Mormons (which I seriously don't recommend) I suggest going straight for the jugular-- the priesthood order of Melchizedek; because it's the Achilles' heel of Mormonism's entire hierarchical structure.

According to the letter to Hebrews, the Melchizedekian order is a high-priest's post; and very exclusive.

1• Melchizedekian priests do not obtain their positions by succession.

2• Melchizedekian priests are personally hand-picked by God; not by man.

3• Melchizedekian priests must be immortal.

4• Melchizedekian priests must be childless.

5• Melchizedekian priests have no genealogy.

6• There can be only one Melchizedekian priest at a time.

7• Jesus is the man currently occupying the post; and since he rose from the dead immortal, he will never be replaced.

8• The Melchizedekian priesthood began with its post on earth. But when the covenant that Yhvh's people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Number, and Deuteronomy established Aaron as the high priest, Mel's post was moved to heaven; viz: no man on earth can officiate in the priesthood of Melchizedek; not even Jesus; were he here.

9• No human being under God outranks a Melchizedekian priest; not even an actual Old Testament prophet.

If Mormons challenge you to produce textual evidence to substantiate those nine points: don't do it. Instead tell them that if they want textual evidence then they will just have to read the letter to Hebrews themselves because you're not telling.

The reason I recommend that stance is because Mormon men are supposed to be well-versed so that you shouldn't have to produce textual evidence. Don't let them talk you out of this by citing rules of academic discussion and so forth. You don't have to win the discussion; all you have to do is know what you're talking about; and he that's biblically ignorant; let him be ignorant still.

If the Mormons with whom you are conversing attempt to divert you, or refute you with "revelation" or in any way bee-ess their way out of those nine points with clever LDS sophistry; it's time to come to a full stop-- politely thank them for their time, and bid them have a nice day.

Q: Does Mormonism's order of Melchizedek have to be biblical? Why can't a church employ the name for their proprietary order of priests; sort of like the Mason-sponsored community of Job's Daughters International?

A: Because it's fraud. Maybe Mormonism's brand of morality doesn't see it that way; but my brand sure does. Christ's high-priest priesthood is not a trifling matter; it is crucial to humanity's association with God and when Mormon men take that title to themselves, they are nothing less than identify thieves and usurping someone else's authority as their own. I can't stop them of course, but neither can I condone their conduct.

FYI: The order of Aaron is also a high-priest priesthood; so even that order is limited to one man at a time; viz: both of Mormonism's priesthoods, even were they valid, are way, way over-staffed.

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[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend members of the LDS church in anyway. This is just a simple discussion of people on the internet.

I just wanted to see what CF thinks. My Church officially does not recognize Mormons as valid Christians. I know certain Evangelicals and liberal Christian groups may have different opinions. What are your thoughts?

If you believe them not to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you do believe them to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you are Mormon, what is your view of orthodox Christians?

As already stated, my Church does not accept Mormons as Christians, and I hold to that. Reason? Their beliefs are the Trinity are highly unorthodox. Their idea of the "Godhead" is more akin to a polytheistic doctrine than the monotheism of Christianity.

This is ironic becuase I watched some mormon stuff today.

I don't believe they are christians because of the following.

1. They have their own book per say although the belief is that it's part of the bible or something like that.


2. I personally don't classify any faith that sort of in a sense praises another being along with JESUS to be christian, the addition of Joseph Smith fits this.


3. They are polytheistic in a way more so then some other faiths that people argue learn towards that way as well. The belief that JESUS is the brother of satan...and God married Mary or whatever it's almost like the Greek stuff. YOu got Zeus and who is it Hera? and then some children underneath all that. Christianity is known to sort of be the opposite of stuff like that...so if a faith closely resembles Pagan material it's kind of yeah.




Personally I recommend avoiding mormons though becuase once you debate with one and maybe you "school them" more will just come and it's too much of a hassle (they usually travel in groups). The best way to deal with them is focusing on the oneness of God though which is talked about a lot in the OT if you ever end up not having a choice though.

 

[WebersHome]

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In its beginnings, Mormonism's champions believed and practiced a kind of theology called monolatrism (a.k.a. monolatry) which can be defined as belief in the existence of many Gods, but with the consistent worship of only one deity. Unlike henotheism, monolatrism asserts that there is only one God worthy of worship, though other Gods are believed to exist.

According to Brigham Young, monolatrism's "one God worthy of worship" is Adam; a.k.a. Michael the Archangel.

"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 349)

"When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. His is Michael the Archangel, the Ancient of Days about whom holy men have written and spoken-- He is our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, in the Journal of Discourses, 1:50)

Whether the LDS still follows those teachings I don't know. But it's notable that Isaiah's God believed in neither a head of the Gods, nor a council of Gods, nor an Adam-God Creator. In point of fact, Isaiah's God is quite unique as the only God in existence.

● Isa 43:10 . . Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

● Isa 44:6 . . I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

● Isa 44:8 . . Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

● Isa 45:5 . . I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me

● Isa 45:18 . . For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

● Isa 45:21-22 . .There is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

● Isa 46:9 . . I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me

The New Testament's Jesus also believed in a solo God.

● John 17:3 . . that they might know thee the only true God

Seeing as how there is only one true God, then by default all other so-called Gods are false Gods since there is no category of intermediate Gods in the Bible sandwiched between the true and the false.

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[redleghunter]

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend members of the LDS church in anyway. This is just a simple discussion of people on the internet.

I just wanted to see what CF thinks. My Church officially does not recognize Mormons as valid Christians. I know certain Evangelicals and liberal Christian groups may have different opinions. What are your thoughts?

If you believe them not to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you do believe them to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you are Mormon, what is your view of orthodox Christians?

As already stated, my Church does not accept Mormons as Christians, and I hold to that. Reason? Their beliefs are the Trinity are highly unorthodox. Their idea of the "Godhead" is more akin to a polytheistic doctrine than the monotheism of Christianity.

I'm Evangelical, and no they are not Christian.

They are a cult with their own extra-biblical texts which they hold over the Bible.

They also believe their presidential and elder/apostolic council are infallible.

 

[SkyWriting]

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend members of the LDS church in anyway. This is just a simple discussion of people on the internet.

I just wanted to see what CF thinks. My Church officially does not recognize Mormons as valid Christians. I know certain Evangelicals and liberal Christian groups may have different opinions. What are your thoughts?

If you believe them not to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you do believe them to be Christians, what is your reasoning?

If you are Mormon, what is your view of orthodox Christians?

As already stated, my Church does not accept Mormons as Christians, and I hold to that. Reason? Their beliefs are the Trinity are highly unorthodox. Their idea of the "Godhead" is more akin to a polytheistic doctrine than the monotheism of Christianity.

I'm Evangelical, and no they are not Christian.

They are a cult with their own extra-biblical texts which they hold over the Bible.

They also believe their presidential and elder/apostolic council are infallible.

They are considered a Christian Cult which has beliefs outside of
the mainstream of Christianity. There is a list of characteristics
that are commonly found in cults, but no hard and fast rules.

 

[Albion]

The reason that the Mormon church is considered to be a cult is not because of mind control techniques or the like--that was what the link was totally focused on, the psychological, organizational elements. That use of the word could just as easily apply to a kook, counterculture movement that had no interest in religion.

But the church does have a different understanding of the nature of God, and of Man, and uses as authoritative revelation something other than the Bible (i.e. the Book of Mormon and some other writings). It meets the definition of a religious cult on all those accounts.

Another approach to this matter is sometimes used, however. That is to accept the Mormon claim to being Christian at face value, but to classify it by itself, hence Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Protestant, and Mormon.