Are Jews still God's Chosen People ?

[Canuckster]

So all those native Americans that the Settlers and missionaries and conquistadors converted en masse to Christianity at gunpoint weren’t actually saved once they converted?

Since when is anyone saved through forced conversion at gunpoint?

 

[Canuckster]

There is NOBODY without Israel’s blood in them today.
Nobody. Genetic Israel is a BIG club, and we’re all in it.

So all the prophecies about Israel in the Bible refer to the whole world since we're all "genetic Israel"?

 

[parousia70]

So all the prophecies about Israel in the Bible refer to the whole world since we're all "genetic Israel"?

No.
Israel is defined by covenant, not genetics.
There are only two strands of DNA that God ever cared about. Faith and Obedience.

The genetic son of Abraham could (and did) lose his inheritance in the nation through disobedience and faithlessness, and the foreigner could (and did) gain his inheritance in the nation through Faith and Obedience.

This has been the unbroken covenant History of Israel since it's inception.

 

[Canuckster]

No.
Israel is defined by covenant, not genetics.
There are only two strands of DNA that God ever cared about. Faith and Obedience.

The genetic son of Abraham could (and did) lose his inheritance in the nation through disobedience and faithlessness, and the foreigner could (and did) gain his inheritance in the nation through Faith and Obedience.

This has been the unbroken covenant History of Israel since it's inception.

So there's covenant Israel.... everyone else "Genetic Israel". Have a great day

 

[parousia70]

So there's covenant Israel.... everyone else "Genetic Israel". Have a great day

Well... EVERYONE is genetic Israel. A subgroup of everyone is Covenant Israel.
Today there are two groups of people on earth.
There are the Nazarenes, who put their faith and obedience in Israel's King, and there is everyone else.
Both groups posses the Abrahamic/Jacobian genome the same. Faith in, and Obedience to, Israel's King, is the ONLY difference.

If you have any evidence to the contrary, I'd be happy to examine it, but it appears you don't, otherwise I expect you would have offered it up already.

Good day to you as well.

 

[Canuckster]

it appears you don't, otherwise I expect you would have offered it up already.

Good day to you as well.

yes.... I got no genetic evidence with me to prove the world is not "Genetic Israel". Take care

 

[parousia70]

yes.... I got no genetic evidence with me to prove the world is not "Genetic Israel". Take care

Well, Here's some for you that it is:
Abraham lineage
DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?
Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places
Jewish-Roots Arabs in Israel
Tracing the lost tribes to Jewish communities in Africa
Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel? - CNN
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/...-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/...her-claims-proof-of-tribe-of-Ephraim-in-India
https://www.jta.org/2013/05/23/life...bush-bani-israel-tribe-claims-jewish-heritage

Example of the mathematical confirmation of ancestral genetic ubiquity

The last one is especially educational.
Every single native european alive today can trace their ancestry to a single person from just 600 years ago.
We're all family.

 

[Canuckster]

Well, Here's some for you that it is:
Abraham lineage
DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?
Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places
Jewish-Roots Arabs in Israel
Tracing the lost tribes to Jewish communities in Africa
Nigeria's Igbo Jews: 'Lost tribe' of Israel? - CNN
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/...-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
https://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/...her-claims-proof-of-tribe-of-Ephraim-in-India
https://www.jta.org/2013/05/23/life...bush-bani-israel-tribe-claims-jewish-heritage

Example of the mathematical confirmation of ancestral genetic ubiquity

The last one is especially educational.
Every single native european alive today can trace their ancestry to a single person from just 600 years ago.
We're all family.

Hey.... I got those who call themselves Jews telling me we're all Jews and I got the Lord telling me that there are those who call themselves Jews but are liars.... guess who I'm going to believe? But yes.... we are all family and I hope to see you in the kingdom.

 

[Guojing]

You're kidding, right?. . .this is bizarre.

The blood of the new covenant (Lk 22:20, 1 Co 11:25) does not apply NOW, and salvation by faith in and trust on the person and atoning work (blood, Ro 3:25) of Jesus Christ does not apply NOW, meaning no one is saved NOW?

And just where is that found in authoritative NT apostolic teaching?
Where do you come up with this stuff that stands the NT on its head?

Both the Old as well as the New covenants, belong to Israel.

 

[Clare73]

Both the Old as well as the New covenants, belong to Israel.

NT apostolic teaching presents otherwise.

Both Gentiles and Jews are part of the one people of God, the church (ek-klesia - called-out assembly, Ac 7:38), the one olive tree going all the way back to Abraham (Ro 11:16),
to which church it is Israel's destiny to be grafted back IF (not "when") they do not persist in unbelief (Ro 11:23), which they have for 2,000 years now and counting.

God's gifts and irrevocable call (Ro 11:29) to Israel are being fulfilled in a remnant now (Ro 11:1-5), just as it is with the Gentiles.
Israel is on the same footing as the Gentiles, salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ. . .and God is saving a remnant of both.

 

[Bob_1000]

Are Jews still God's Chosen People ?

The Jews never were and never will be Gods chosen people. Gods chosen people have always been those who love God, obey his voice and keep his covenant. These are the chosen people and they come from every race.

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:


Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.