thanks. Just didn't want to be forced into joining when I am looking for a home church. Or pushed into a cult of any sort..told the world outside is evil etc
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Other churches should baptize, such as a Lutherans or Presbyterians. It probably wouldn't be a baptism by immersion unless its a Baptist or Church of Christ church. (There may be some other immersion baptising churches.)
As for independent fundamental Baptists, I was raised in such a church and school. There is good and bad in it. On the plus side, they do interpret Genesis literally, take hell as literal, and have a zeal for evangelism. On the down side, some such churches have a tendency to strain the gnats of no alcohol, movies, or pants on women, only to swallow the camels of improper sexual relationships along with some institutional cover up. Does the church have a website? I could look at it further if you like. God Bless.
You mean "cultish" in the sense of controlling or clannish. I don't have an argument with that appraisal, but it's worth noting that there's almost nothing in the church's statement of belief that is particularly unusual.
It's normally that--strange doctrine--which gets any church labeled a cult (Mormons, JWs, Worldwide Church of God, Christian Science, United Pentecostal Ch, for example).
thanks. Just didn't want to be forced into joining when I am looking for a home church. Or pushed into a cult of any sort..told the world outside is evil etc
You mean "cultish" in the sense of controlling or clannish. I don't have an argument with that appraisal, but it's worth noting that there's almost nothing in the church's statement of belief that is particularly unusual.
It's normally that--strange doctrine--which gets any church labeled a cult (Mormons, JWs, Worldwide Church of God, Christian Science, United Pentecostal Ch, for example).
I've been looking for a church that does baptisms and a church up the road does them. Many say baptism is required for salvation and I have been pushed to do so.
So I messaged and they do baptisms. It is a Bible Baptist church. Their page says "Our church is a friendly fundamental Bible-believing Independent Baptist Church. We would like to invite you to join us."
I have no idea about denominations. So looked up what independent fundamental baptist churches are. I got that it's a cult pop up..pages on their mind control and abuse.
I only want to get a baptism but baptism is a part of actually joining the church? I just want to be baptised?!
Yup...if the "pastor" went to Hyles Anderson College (HAC) stay far away from the church. Lot of sexual predators comin' out of that school.And Westborough, Hiles Anderson,Steven Anderson and any other idiot screaming at his congregation false teaching.
I've been looking for a church that does baptisms and a church up the road does them. Many say baptism is required for salvation and I have been pushed to do so.
So I messaged and they do baptisms. It is a Bible Baptist church. Their page says "Our church is a friendly fundamental Bible-believing Independent Baptist Church. We would like to invite you to join us."
I have no idea about denominations. So looked up what independent fundamental baptist churches are. I got that it's a cult pop up..pages on their mind control and abuse.
I only want to get a baptism but baptism is a part of actually joining the church? I just want to be baptised?!
Yup...if the "pastor" went to Hyles Anderson College (HAC) stay far away from the church. Lot of sexual predators comin' out of that school.
I have to agree with you there, but it's an important gauge. I always say that nothing beats actually visiting various churches and paying close attention to everything. In this case, though, our friend doesn't want to join any church but just to be baptized.As someone who has attended many non-denominational baptistic churches, I can tell you that what the websites statement of faith says and how the church actually works are two different things.
I partly agree. But if you look at their "about us", some of what I stated is covered in that. The KJV-only stance is enough to keep me from ever going through their doors.Would you agree, then, that it's noteworthy that this particular Independent Baptist church did NOT say anything like that?
Without double checking, I think they said that they USE only the KJV, not that they're a "KJV-only" church with all that that implies. However, that line on the website is somewhat imprecise, so you may be right about this.I partly agree. But if you look at their "about us", some of what I stated is covered in that. The KJV-only stance is enough to keep me from ever going through their doors.
However, they do state elsewhere that they believe membership and baptism are two different things, which is what the OP is about.
Cult.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
Sounds like that could apply to just about all religions and denominations.
Not trying to be provocative, just never looked up the definition(s) before.
That's a different sense of the word "cult."
For the sense in which it's meant here, see here: FAQs - International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA)