Are Calvinists Christians?

[Anthony Brooks]

When I am on Facebook, all I see are people talking about the "god of Calvinism" and how evil he is... Stating the obvious, I would say that they believe that Calvinism is a heresy and it's partakers are not Christians... Can anyone clarify that position?

 

[JohannineScholar]

nvm

 

[GillDouglas]

When I am on Facebook, all I see are people talking about the "god of Calvinism" and how evil he is... Stating the obvious, I would say that they believe that Calvinism is a heresy and it's partakers are not Christians... Can anyone clarify that position?

The correct answer is Yes and No. There are true Christians within all denominations, with various states of theology and understanding.

But to clarify, those that refuse to give credit to the Author of this world in regards to ALL things, find that if what Calvinists believe is true, then God must be cruel and evil. In my personal opinion, these individuals are narrow-minded and lack understanding in regard to God's character.

 

[Winken]

When I am on Facebook, all I see are people talking about the "god of Calvinism" and how evil he is... Stating the obvious, I would say that they believe that Calvinism is a heresy and it's partakers are not Christians... Can anyone clarify that position?

Those who trust Jesus as Savior are Christians. Do Calvinists trust Him? Lutherans? Baptists? Methodists? Presbyterians? Non-Denoms? Catholics? Messianic Jews? Mormons? Jehovah Witnesses? Your local bartender?

How many persons today trust an ideology based upon logic rather than a Spiritual rebirth?

 

[GillDouglas]

Those who trust Jesus as Savior are Christians. Do Calvinists trust Him? Lutherans? Baptists? Methodists? Presbyterians?

How many persons today trust an ideology based upon logic rather than a Spiritual rebirth?

Strange that you didn't include non-denominational or even Catholics in the list. Of the groups you've mentioned, the two you left out tend to trust more in their own 'good works' or tradition than in Jesus. Not all of them of course, I'd hate to pigeonhole anyone.

 

[Winken]

Strange that you didn't include non-denominational or even Catholics in the list. Of the groups you've mentioned, the two you left out tend to trust more in their own 'good works' or tradition than in Jesus. Not all of them of course, I'd hate to pigeonhole anyone.

Edited my post#4. It's past my bedtime. Maybe I'll think of some more tomorrow.

Be blessed!

 

[Gregory Thompson]

When I am on Facebook, all I see are people talking about the "god of Calvinism" and how evil he is... Stating the obvious, I would say that they believe that Calvinism is a heresy and it's partakers are not Christians... Can anyone clarify that position?

The monster god of calvinism comes from preachers such as mark driscoll and the like. The association of these people with calvinism is their use of the TULIP theology.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

One point is how geographically situated calvinists are, and their emphasis of pre-destination. If God has therefore pre-destined calvinists to be saved, then why only in countries with seminaries and a certain foundation of western education? It makes God seem sadistic and showing favoritism or something.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

arguments along those lines, etc etc.

 

[Kiterius]

Those who trust Jesus as Savior are Christians. Do Calvinists trust Him? Lutherans? Baptists? Methodists? Presbyterians? Non-Denoms? Catholics? Messianic Jews? Mormons? Jehovah Witnesses? Your local bartender?

How many persons today trust an ideology based upon logic rather than a Spiritual rebirth?

I'd like to state for the record that my local bartender does trust Jesus as Savior.

 

[GillDouglas]

The monster god of calvinism comes from preachers such as mark driscoll and the like. The association of these people with calvinism is their use of the TULIP theology.

The redemption of specific sinners, incapable of such on their own merit, is the eternal absolute and unconditional plan of God accomplished and maintained by the atoning work of Christ. To deny the divine decrees and providence of the Author of this world is to predicate a world, and ALL its concerns, that is regulated by un-designed chance and blind fate. What a hopeless world that must be.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The redemption of specific sinners, incapable of such on their own merit, is the eternal absolute and unconditional plan of God, accomplished by the atoning work of Christ. To deny the divine decrees and providence of the Author of this world is to predicate a world, and ALL its concerns, that is regulated by un-designed chance and blind fate. What a hopeless world that must be.

I find both sides of the neo-platonist debate too selfish, the scripture speaks of both pre-destination and our part in it ... so the dissection of a holy harmony is not appreciated.

 

[GillDouglas]

I find both sides of the neo-platonist debate too selfish, the scripture speaks of both pre-destination and our part in it ... so the dissection of a holy harmony is not appreciated.

I believe it to be a simple matter in the misunderstanding of God's character. Its no simple task to understand the principal perfections of the divine character, such as His Sovereignty, Decrees or Power. God was under no obligation to create, and His creation adds NOTHING to His perfect being. He is glorious enough in Himself that not even our worship will gain Him anything. Men are arrogant and selfish, believing they are in control of their 'fate', especially worldly men. The ideas proposed by Calvinist's theology, giving the Author credit where it's due, is offensive and that is why so many wish to refute it.

 

[Hammster]

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