Antinomianism and you

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Not in the least, it only proves it.

Then prove it! Because so far you have not

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I don't think he is according to your verse 31.

It plainly says Israel and Judah and also the Law...

 

[Dave L]

Then prove it! Because so far you have not

Read you own post quoting Jeremiah. He proves you are wrong.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Read you own post quoting Jeremiah. He proves you are wrong.

No, it proves YOU wrong, that is why I posted it...

 

[Dave L]

No, it proves YOU wrong, that is why I posted it...

You do not understand what you posted.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You do not understand what you posted.

Absolutely I do!

 

[Dave L]

Absolutely I do!

If you did you would agree with Jeremiah.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

If you did you would agree with Jeremiah.

I DO agree with him...your problem is that both of us disagree with YOU!!

 

[Dave L]

I DO agree with him...your problem is that both of us disagree with YOU!!

Let's let Jeremiah call it and us stay out of it.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Let's let Jeremiah call it and us stay out of it.

He did and he says you are wrong

 

[mark kennedy]

Then the reality is the law has nothing to do with our righteousness.

You would be justified (declared righteous) by the Law (Romans 2:13; Leviticus 18:5), if you could keep the righteous requirements of the Law (Romans 2:13). The Law is holy, righteous and good but it is spiritual and I am not (Romans 7:12-14). We know that all God’s commandments are righteous (Psalms 119:172). The Law and the prophets clearly testify to the righteousness of God (Romans 3:21), so the Law at least shows us what the requirements of righteousness are, you just cannot be righteous before God by works of the Law, if that were possible then Christ died for nothing (Galatians 2:21).

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[mark kennedy]

Let's let Jeremiah call it and us stay out of it.

I'm sorry but I've completely lost track of the verse in question here, could I get a quote real quick?

 

[Dave L]

I'm sorry but I've completely lost track of the verse in question here, could I get a quote real quick?

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” (Jeremiah 31:31–33)

 

[Dave L]

He did and he says you are wrong

That is your opinion only.

 

[mark kennedy]

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people.” (Jeremiah 31:31–33)

Thanks for that and I don't know what you guys are arguing about, but Jeremiah is describing new birth. It's perhaps the hardest part to explain about the Law, you can't keep the Law, not because there is a problem with the Law, but because you are by nature a sinner and opposed to the things of God, as Paul describes it, we 'suppress the truth in unrighteousness' (Rom. 1:18-20). That's why you, 'must be born again' (John 3:30), God either gives you a new nature or you remain a slave to sin. After watching this issue mulled over endlessly, it seems kind of obvious after a while.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Dave L]

Thanks for that and I don't know what you guys are arguing about, but Jeremiah is describing new birth. It's perhaps the hardest part to explain about the Law, you can't keep the Law, not because there is a problem with the Law, but because you are by nature a sinner and opposed to the things of God, as Paul describes it, we 'suppress the truth in unrighteousness' (Rom. 1:18-20). That's why you, 'must be born again' (John 3:30), God either gives you a new nature or you remain a slave to sin. After watching this issue mulled over endlessly, it seems kind of obvious after a while.

Grace and peace,
Mark

The Ten Commandments = the Old Covenant replaced by the New.

 

[mark kennedy]

The Ten Commandments = the Old Covenant replaced by the New.

What I've noticed is that every commandment is represented in the New Testament witness to some extent. Obviously God still doesn't want us to have or make idols, or taking his name in vain. The six that relate to how we interact with one another is summed up in the New Testament was loving your neighbor as yourself. You'll get no argument from me that we are not under the Law, but that is because the new birth establishes the righteousness, testified to in the Law and the prophets, by faith.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

That is your opinion only.

It is in black and white...

 

[Dave L]

It is in black and white...

Your opinion only is in black and white.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I'm sorry but I've completely lost track of the verse in question here, could I get a quote real quick?

Don't feel bad, Dave L has too LOL