Anti-white racism in the press

[KarateCowboy]

What do you think? I think a fair assessment leads to the inevitable conclusion that there is a strong anti-white sentiment in the Guardian.

Given the strong culture of leukophobia among the press in the USA, I think it's a fair sentiment to say anti-whiteness is a problem. Stuff like this is symptomatic.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Looks like you compared apples to oranges and came up with the oppressed White man.

 

[lasthero]

What do you think?

About what?

I feel like I'm missing something here.

 

[Goonie]

It's possibly another leak from the alternative universe where Trump and Putin are communists, or someone has mashed up to unconnected posts.

 

[KarateCowboy]

About what?

I feel like I'm missing something here.

What do you think of them simultaneously telling whites to make their population decline by having fewer children, then telling them they need to import non-whites to make up for the population decline?

 

[lasthero]

What do you think of them simultaneously telling whites to make their population decline by having fewer children, then telling them they need to import non-whites to make up for the population decline?

I think you're grasping at straws.

The first one is just from a study saying that one way to cut down on climate emissions is to have less children. It doesn't say 'white children'. I'm black,and if there were black kids in that picture, that wouldn't be the conclusion I'd draw. I'd think they just picked a random picture of babies for their story.

As for the second, it doesn't say they need to import more 'non-whites'. It just says 'immigrants'. Immigrants can be any race.

So yeah, I think you're grasping at straws.

Also they're not 'simultaneously' saying anything. These articles were made 18 months apart.

 

[super animator]

You are reading in between the lines here. It says nothing about race, yet you assume that it is, based on the skin color of the babies. Your jumping to conclusions give the sheep a run for their money.

What do you think of them simultaneously telling whites to make their population decline by having fewer children, then telling them they need to import non-whites to make up for the population decline?

 

[Goonie]

What do you think of them simultaneously telling whites to make their population decline by having fewer children, then telling them they need to import non-whites to make up for the population decline?

The fact that you are making it all about colour is noted.

 

[Rubiks]

What do you think? I think a fair assessment leads to the inevitable conclusion that there is a strong anti-white sentiment in the Guardian.

Given the strong culture of leukophobia among the press in the USA, I think it's a fair sentiment to say anti-whiteness is a problem. Stuff like this is symptomatic.

None of those articles show any bias against whites. There is racism against blacks by the far right, and there is racism against whites by the far left. Neither of these represent the mainstream culture. There is, and always will be, wingnuts in this universe.

 

[TLK Valentine]

What do you think of them simultaneously telling whites to make their population decline by having fewer children, then telling them they need to import non-whites to make up for the population decline?

Yeah, I'm not seeing anyyhing in the first article directed towards whites...

 

[VirOptimus]

What do you think? I think a fair assessment leads to the inevitable conclusion that there is a strong anti-white sentiment in the Guardian.

Given the strong culture of leukophobia among the press in the USA, I think it's a fair sentiment to say anti-whiteness is a problem. Stuff like this is symptomatic.

I think you have a persecution complex.

 

[Redac]

If race is not explicitly mentioned, then it is generally paranoid and irrational to see some sort of racial angle to things like this. Is that the position you guys are taking?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

When are white people finally going to catch a break?!

 

[anna ~ grace]

No one seems to be telling Somali immigrants to help the earth by having fewer children. Our society, in general, seems to tend towards "that's so cute!" when it comes to large immigrant familes, especially if they're Muslim, and on the other hand "that's so irresponsible!" when Middle class White, Christian families do the same. I've just noticed that.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I fail to see the link between the two...

First, these posts (if you look at the time stamps) are almost 18 months apart.

Second, the articles themselves put things into context (a context that can't be understood just by reading headlines and looking at the pics from a social media feed)

Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children

Refugee influx helps halt decline in Germany's population


Two completely different editorial articles written by two authors with completely different areas of focus.

The "fight climate change" article was written by Damian Carrington
Damian Carrington is the Guardian's Environment editor

The "German population" article was written by Alberto Nardelli
Alberto Nardelli is the data editor at the Guardian.

I don't think it's surprising that an environmental writer and a statistician would have two different points of focus and perspective

 

[Shiloh Raven]

No one seems to be telling Somali immigrants to help the earth by having fewer children. Our society, in general, seems to tend towards "that's so cute!" when it comes to large immigrant families, especially if they're Muslim, and on the other hand "that's so irresponsible!" when Middle class White, Christian families do the same. I've just noticed that.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any specific examples or statistics to substantiate your claim? I ask because I've never heard of such a thing. As a Christian mother of eight children myself, I've never been told in all the 20+ years of being a mother that it's irresponsible of me and my husband to have this many children. We've always been encouraged and admired for having a large family. Admittedly, I have heard people criticizing the Duggar family, but then again I do think having 20 children is a bit excessive. However, I'm not at all impressed with their ranting on and on about Christian values and morality, considering the intentional cover-up of the sexual scandals by their oldest son Josh, in an attempt to protect him from prosecution for being a perpetual sexual predator of young girls.

 

[anna ~ grace]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any specific examples or statistics to substantiate your claim? I ask because I've never heard of such a thing. As a Christian mother of eight children myself, I've never been told in all the 20+ years of being a mother that it's irresponsible of me and my husband to have this many children. We've always been encouraged and admired for having a large family. Admittedly, I have heard people criticizing the Duggar family, but then again I do think having 20 children is a bit excessive. However, I'm not at all impressed with their ranting on and on about Christian values and morality, considering the intentional cover-up of the sexual scandals by their oldest son Josh, in an attempt to protect him from prosecution for being a perpetual sexual predator of young girls.

I do. I work with and for various Somali immigrant families. Four and five kids are common, and I've met a gentleman with seven kids. Society's response is generally accommodating and patient.

I have friends who are Mennonites, who have seven, eight, nine siblings. The unpleasant comments from strangers are something they deal with often. It's something to think about; from personal experience, I've noticed a different response to two separate groups of people who tend to have a lot of kids.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I do. I work with and for various Somali immigrant families. Four and five kids are common, and I've met a gentleman with seven kids. Society's response is generally accommodating and patient.

Our society, or theirs?

 

[anna ~ grace]

Our society, or theirs?

From what I've seen, ours.

Disclaimer; these families are precious and dear, and I'm not putting them down for being immigrants, or having lots of kids.

What I have seen is that large Muslim families immigrating from abroad get a good deal of help from the government in the form of food stamps and housing assistance. Their large families are treated as multi-cultural assets by public schools, and many of the adults work with me.

I have observed my Mennonite friends with similarly large families who do not rely on government assistance being accosted in public for being "irresponsible" and "ecologically selfish" for having more than two or three kids. I have heard jabs that suggest these women ought not to have so many kids.

The standard from what I have observed is not the same.

 

[TLK Valentine]

From what I've seen, ours.

Disclaimer; these families are precious and dear, and I'm not putting them down for being immigrants, or having lots of kids.

Then what's the problem?

What I have seen is that large Muslim families immigrating from abroad get a good deal of help from the government in the form of food stamps and housing assistance. Their large families are treated as multi-cultural assets by public schools, and many of the adults work with me.

Sounds okay...

I have observed my Mennonite friends with similarly large families who do not rely on government assistance being accosted in public for being "irresponsible" and "ecologically selfish" for having more than two or three kids. I have heard jabs that suggest these women ought not to have so many kids.

Sounds like a whole lot of ignorance. Sorry to hear it.

The standard from what I have observed is not the same.

Is it the same people making both judgments?