Anti-Christ Location and Mystery Babylon?

[Revealing Times]

Or it is the dragon in disguise.

The False Prophet will be a man just like the Anti-Christ, they serve Satan like all men not of Christ. They are cast into hell (Revelation 19:20) and are in hell whilst the Dragon/Satan is locked into the pit for 1000 years. Then in Revelation 20:10 when Satan is cast into hell the False Prophet and Beast are there waiting on him.

He's a Lamb signifies he's going to be a High Priest but speak for Satan/Dragon instead of God.

No he does not. He receives no wound at all the entire length of the GT then is cast into the LOF when Christ returns.

Agreed, the Mortal Wound is all about the Seven Headed Beast which was dormant for nigh 2000 years. Only when Israel had life breathed back unto them by God could there be a Beast again. But the Church has to be taken to Heaven first, the gates of hell can not overcome the Church, Jesus told us that. The Church basically turned the Fourth Beast (Rome) into a conveyor belt of Christendom.

Yes but not when the two prophets are resurrected. They do that the same day the trib ends and Jesus returns.

It just takes mathematical logic to figure this out. If both the Two-witnesses and Beast have OFFICES that last on earth for 1260 days and one DIES at the 2nd Woe and the other DIES at the end of the 3rd Woe (the 7 Vials collectively are the 3rd Woe) or 7th Vial then we understand one thing right off the bat by using logic, the Two-witness die before the Beast thus they must also start their OFFICES before the Beast who dies after them.

I think they show up 75 days before the Beast at the 1335 which I think is 1335 days before the Second Coming. The 1290 is 1290 days before the Second Coming and the 1260 is 1260 days before the Second Coming. The 1335 is THE BLESSING, the 1290 is the False Prophet placing an Image of the Beast in the Temple 30 days before the Beast Conquers Jerusalem, thus the Jews have 30 days to Flee Judea. And of course the 1260 is the Beast Conquering Jerusalem.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

No he does not. He receives no wound at all the entire length of the GT then is cast into the LOF when Christ returns.




Yes but not when the two prophets are resurrected. They do that the same day the trib ends and Jesus returns.



No, he does not create the image of the beast.

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[fn] for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,[fn] tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those[fn] who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[fn] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[Marilyn C]

Do the two seem to tie in? Mystery Babylon is said to sit on many waters.

Anyone have an idea of what that means, or where? Or what the Mark of the Beast may be or even if the Mark is already here or so.

Hi John,

Yes, the city of Babylon in Iraq, at present being rebuilt, will be the location of the anti-Christ`s seat of Power. The anti-Christ is called the Assyrian, (Syria & Iraq) and will bring together the very terrifying and mighty power of Islam.

That is why that area, Syria and Iraq have again come into world focus. After the Russia and their allies try to wipe out Israel, and God deals with them, then the world demands that peace in the Middle East. Who but a Moslem, one who is deceitful and cunning, can make such a peace with Israel. God`s word says he comes in peaceable and by deception, and step by step gains credence locally, nationally and world wide.

Marilyn.

 

[Revealing Times]

2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[fn] for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,[fn] tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those[fn] who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[fn] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I am pretty sure he's saying that it is one of the SEVEN HEADS of a FIGURATIVE Beast that is mortally wounded, not the Anti-Christ himself. I tend to agree, Rome received the mortal wound. That is why there was no Beast for nigh 2000 years.

1. There can be no Beast without Israel being alive and God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones.

2. The Church can not be overcome by the gates of Hell, thus there can be no Beast Gov. until he who withholdeth is taken out of the way, and that is the Church infilled with the Holy Spirit and working against the devils Kingdom. We know this is what withholds because the Holy Spirit is not going anywhere during the Tribulation period, He brings the plagues and still calls people to repentance via the Gospel. It is the Church that Departs.

 

[ewq1938]

The False Prophet will be a man just like the Anti-Christ, they serve Satan like all men not of Christ.

Those are two names for the same single person. AC=FP.

 

[Marilyn C]

Those are two names for the same single person. AC=FP.

Hi ewq,

Had you realised that the false prophet `exercise all the authority of the first beast (anti-Christ) in his presence,...` and thus shows there are two men. (Rev. 13: 11 & 12)

Marilyn.

 

[Marilyn C]

I am pretty sure he's saying that it is one of the SEVEN HEADS of a FIGURATIVE Beast that is mortally wounded, not the Anti-Christ himself. I tend to agree, Rome received the mortal wound. That is why there was no Beast for nigh 2000 years.

1. There can be no Beast without Israel being alive and God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones.

2. The Church can not be overcome by the gates of Hell, thus there can be no Beast Gov. until he who withholdeth is taken out of the way, and that is the Church infilled with the Holy Spirit and working against the devils Kingdom. We know this is what withholds because the Holy Spirit is not going anywhere during the Tribulation period, He brings the plagues and still calls people to repentance via the Gospel. It is the Church that Departs.

Hi Revealing Times,

I do agree with some of what you said. However had you realised that the 7 heads, (leaders) are consecutive. (Rev. 17: 10 & 11). They are world leaders who rule one at a time the Global Government, and the 7th one (possessed by Satan the 8th) is the anti-Christ.

Marilyn.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Do the two seem to tie in? Mystery Babylon is said to sit on many waters.

Anyone have an idea of what that means, or where? Or what the Mark of the Beast may be or even if the Mark is already here or so.

Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem.It is surrounded by the Red Sea, the Mediterranean sea, the Dead sea and the Sea of Galilee.
The mark may be shown here...

Exodus 13:9
9 It shall be as a sign to you on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the Lord’s law may be in your mouth; for with a strong hand the Lord has brought you out of Egypt.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Mystery babylon is Rome,
Rev 17:18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The only city at John's writing (Rev) that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.


The mark of the anti christ will be exactly like the Bible states
He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

The king of the north after he is mortally wounded becomes the beast, he receives the spirit from one of Romes past rulers.

Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition.

Rev 17:10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

WRONG!

There is only ONE nation in ancient times that has been personified as a harlot.

Hint: Jerusalem sits on seven hills.

 

[d taylor]

WRONG!

There is only ONE nation in ancient times that has been personified as a harlot.

Hint: Jerusalem sits on seven hills.

Can you not read the verses in the Bible Revelation 17:18 states: the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The only city at the time of John writing these verses and the only city that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome. Period no other city at the time John was writing can be stated "Which reigns" not did reign or will reign

Rome is the great harlot
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.

Jerusalem has not reigned over any kings of the earth

 

[ewq1938]

Hi ewq,

Had you realised that the false prophet `exercise all the authority of the first beast (anti-Christ) in his presence,...` and thus shows there are two men. (Rev. 13: 11 & 12)

Marilyn.

It doesn't mean that. It means the FP is in complete and full control of the beast kingdom. There is only one singular person ruling the world at that time, the AC which is called the FP in Rev. There is no person mentioned at all regarding the Rev 13:1 beast. That is a government of many people spanning the whole world not the Ac. The AC comes as the second beast. The same pattern is found in Daniel as well.

Daniel - ten horned beast arises, little horn comes next and is the person of authority and power.
Revelation - ten horned beast arises, false prophet comes next and is the person of authority and power.

Same "players" and same order of appearance.

Little horn = false prophet = antichrist.

 

[ewq1938]

Can you not read the verses in the Bible Revelation 17:18 states: the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The only city at the time of John writing these verses and the only city that ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome. Period no other city at the time John was writing can be stated "Which reigns" not did reign or will reign

Rome did not rule over all the kings of the world and Rev is prophecy not something about the current time John lived in.

Babylon is coming but isn't fully here yet and when she comes, the rule will be over all kings not some of them.

 

[d taylor]

Rome did not rule over all the kings of the world and Rev is prophecy not something about the current time John lived in.

Babylon is coming but isn't fully here yet and when she comes, the rule will be over all kings not some of them.

Where do you see - all - in that verse 17:18

 

[Revealing Times]

Those are two names for the same single person. AC=FP.

I disagree brother, the scriptures show us it's two people.

Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Think Antiochus Epiphanes (forerunner of the Anti-Christ) and Jason the High Priest who bribed Antiochus to become the High Priest, having his own brother killed, who was a pious High Priest. Jason tried to Hellenize the Jews thus he is the (FORERUNNER for the False Prophet IMHO).

This is why we get Daniel 11 the chapter that gives us every King of the Greeks via the Syrian Wars, all the way to Antiochus, then we get the Anti-Christ in verses 36-45.

 

[Revealing Times]

I do agree with some of what you said. However had you realised that the 7 heads, (leaders) are consecutive. (Rev. 17: 10 & 11). They are world leaders who rule one at a time the Global Government, and the 7th one (possessed by Satan the 8th) is the anti-Christ.

The Seven Heads are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Coming Anti-Christ the 8th KING is a Demon named Apollyon, he s OF THE 7....Hint he was the Prince of Persia who resisted Michael for 21 days in Dan. ch. 10. He's a "Principality in high places" placed there by Satan.

 

[Revealing Times]

The mortal wound is on one of the heads. In Revelation 17 heads are said to be kings.....And there are seven kings:

In Rev. 17 God REDUCES the Kingdoms to Kings so that we will understand that the Last Beast Head is a King who is called THE BEAST all by himself because he has no successor and he started the Beast Kingdom himself (he rules 42 Months and then is cast into hell). We understand via Rev. 13 that these 7 Heads include Kingdoms, the Lion, Bear and Leopard are mentioned on purpose to let us know who these Heads are !!

There are no 7 Hills or Mountains in Rev. 17, that is just how God REDUCES the Kingdoms to Kings who arise above the plains. The very next verse (like you point out) tells us THEY ARE ALSO SEVEN KINGS.....5 Have Fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece) ONE IS (Rome) and one is YET TO COME (the coming Anti-Christ). All of them are going to fall, the ONE IS (Rome) eventual fell, becoming the Mortal Wound of the Figurative Beast which became INACTIVE and thus (Israel was Dead Men's Bones in God's eyes) was no more for near 2000 years. And of course the Last Beast is going to be cast into hell by Jesus/God/Holy Spirit. So the 7 hills thing is a false flag, the 7 Kingdoms are in 7 different places.

The Four Beasts of Daniel are also called Kings who ARISE !! Dan. 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Every Kingdom has to have a King who ARISES originally and a King who is at the helm when the Kingdom eventually FALLS also.

The beauty of this is God is pointing us to a SINGLE MAN (Little Horn) who unlike any other Beast does BOTH....He arises AND falls !! This is why God REDUCES the Kingdoms to Kings, he wants us to know the last Beast is a ONE MAN SHOW !! He arises and falls.

And it's the Meccan Harlot that sits upon Mount Moriah that turns Jerusalem into a harlot.

The Harlot is ALL FALSE RELIGION not just Mecca, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism but all of the False Religions of ALL TIME.

 

[Revealing Times]

WRONG!

There is only ONE nation in ancient times that has been personified as a harlot.

Hint: Jerusalem sits on seven hills.

The 7 Hills/Mountains is a false flag as I point out in post #53.

The Harlot RIDES the Beast = TWO ENTITIES not one.

False Religion = the Harlot she has been co-mingled with the Gov. Beasts in all times.

Babylon = False Governance under Satan or Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth.

The Harlot..................RIDES......................The Beast.

False Religion co-mingled with Beast Government.

 

[ewq1938]

Where do you see - all - in that verse 17:18

Where is -some- in that verse? Clearly Rev depicts a ruler and a kingdom which reigns over all of the world and over all kings during the GT.

 

[ewq1938]

I disagree brother, the scriptures show us it's two people.

Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Here the beast is the government or kingdom the FP ruled over. It is not two people because there are no such in the GT. There is the global kingdom, with ten smaller kingdoms within it and one king or ruler, the AC/FP.

 

[Marilyn C]

The Seven Heads are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the Coming Anti-Christ the 8th KING is a Demon named Apollyon, he s OF THE 7....Hint he was the Prince of Persia who resisted Michael for 21 days in Dan. ch. 10. He's a "Principality in high places" placed there by Satan.

Hi Revealing Times,

Egypt and Assyria are NOT the world rulers God revealed in the Great Image. There were only 5 World Rulers. That theory is wrong and not Biblical. `Heads,` in God`s word refers to leaders, and with the added description of `mountains,` that indicates that those leader are most important, of very high position.

We see in Rev. 17 that these leaders follow each other just prior to the anti-Christ coming to power, as he is the 7th. They are coming onto the world stage now as the Global Government comes together.

Marilyn.