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Featured Anti-christ is a Canadian ?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Mike_Tang1991, Apr 2, 2021.

  1. Mike_Tang1991

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    Hi,

    Is it possible the "Antichrist" or "Man of Lawlessness" is a French Canadian-Chinese ?


    And what will the Antichrist/Man of Lawlessness do ? Set up a "New World Order" ?
     
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  2. ViaCrucis

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    Oddly specific...

    It's not clear that St. Paul's "man of lawlessness" is the same thing as "Antichrist"; though this connection has frequently been made by Christian commentators and interpreters for the last two thousand years.

    The difficulty is that there has never been a definitive Christian understanding of "Antichrist". The only places in the Bible this word is found comes to us in the first two epistles of St. John. And he, writing to his audience, says, "You have heard antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come" and then goes on to identify these antichrists as heretics who claim to be "of us" but are not, for they deny and oppose Christ in their heresy.

    St. John is likely talking about the early proto-Gnostics known as Docetists. Docetism was a very ancient heresy that said that Jesus only seemed to be human (from the Greek dokeo meaning "to seem" or "to appear like"). The Docetists taught that Jesus wasn't human, He had no physical body; instead Jesus was a purely divine apparition, a formless spiritual entity. In one of the most famous Docetic writings of antiquity, the Acts of John (which was probably originally an orthodox work that was later changed to be more Gnostic), there is a passage in which the writer claims that Jesus would walk on the sand and leave no foot prints, that Jesus would occasionally appear and disappear, that when someone tried to touch Jesus their hand would pass right through.

    The 1st and 2nd Epistles of St. John directly and explicitly condemn this heresy, and speak of it as antichrist, being of the spirit of antichrist, and those promoting it as antichrists.

    The idea of a "new world order" is a very modern idea that that has no real basis in Scripture. And it depends a great deal on what one believes about these things, and many other things.

    Is there a figure that shows up at some point near the end of history, a final antagonist to God's people? This is what many imagine when they hear or read the word "antichrist", and again frequently in the history of Christianity this has been a popular belief and idea. But it's not something the Bible actually just comes right out and says, but requires a particular way of reading, and comparing different passages of Scripture to tease this kind of idea out.

    Will there be an ultimate bad guy--The Antichrist? Maybe. But it's hardly a certainty.

    Which basically means that, generally, everyone and their uncle has an opinion on the subject, some of those opinions have more historical merit than others--but it's all basically just opinion. There is no definitive answer to the following questions:

    Who or what is the Antichrist?
    What will the Antichrist do?
    Is there a final, end-of-the-world Antichrist?

    The idea that a final end-of-the-world Antichrist will bring about a new world order is a very recent innovation among certain groups of Christians--usually the sort who also engage in wide-eyed conspiracy theories about microchips, the United Nations, the European Union, etc.

    These things are beliefs held by [some] Christians; but these are not Christian beliefs. That is, there are Christians who believe this, but it is not official Christian teaching.

    To offer some helpful insight on this, in the 16th century the Protestant Reformers came to regard and identify the institution of the papacy as "the Antichrist". Because they saw in the opposition from Rome, and Rome's claims of special papal authority to reject and oppose what the Reformers were saying as being the work and spirit of antichrist. It wasn't about the human individual himself sitting on St. Peter's chair as the bishop of Rome, but with the papacy as power and institution acting contrariwise to the Gospel. As such, in Lutheranism the papacy is specifically called "antichrist" in the Lutheran Confessions. Is the papacy exclusively antichrist? Well no. Fundamentally anything that vehemently opposes Christ and His Gospel is antichrist. But this was also a time when the charge of "antichrist" wasn't uncommon. The Pope called Martin Luther "antichrist" as well, because from Rome's perspective Luther was an egotistical monk drunk and full of himself, and saw him as trying to divide the Church.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
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  3. Douggg

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    Picture someone who the Jews would think is their long awaited messiah to be the King of Israel.

    The person has to be a Jew and be the leader of the EU as his first emergence that he can be pinned down to. After the Gog/Magog event, that is when the Jews will think he is their long awaited messiah,
    King of Israel.

    The best thing to do is watch the EU for such a person to become in the public eye. His religion will be Judaism.
     
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  4. Oseas

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    No, the Word of God - the Word is God - does not allow anything that is not written. GOD - the Word - is in control of all, nothing random happens.

    When the main head of Antichrist's kingdom, the fifth and last satanic kingdom-
    Daniel 2- ruled by the MAN Beast figured as the little horn in the Word of GOD, the Dragon, actually the red Dragon, yeah, when he gives his Power, and his Throne and great Authority to the Pope-Revelation 13:v.2 and 5 combined with Revelation 11:v.1-2 - there will be a fusion between Catholicism and the esoteric, and Kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and the Pope, the FIRST blasphemy Man Beast, will be the FIRST to rule the FIRST half of the 70th week-Revelation 13:v.5. Only the second half will be leaded by the main head of Antichrist's kingdom, and it is he and his people that is linked to the ten horns that shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For GOD hath put in their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the Beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
     
  5. TribulationSigns

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    Yep. This is what I am seeing too. Newspaper Eschatology.
     
  6. TribulationSigns

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    Funny, people here are coming up with wild theories about who the antichrist will be:

    1.) French Canadian-Chinese.
    2.) A Jewish leader of EU.
    3.) Pope

    Typical Premillennial Confusion!
     
  7. daydreameranastasia

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    This. I highly doubt the Jews will consider a French Canadian-Chinese as their messiah.
     
  8. NomNomPizza

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    Antchrist comes from north of Jerusalem and from place where one of these tribes once was.
     
  9. myst33

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    No, Nero was not a Canadian.
     
  10. Timtofly

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    Nero was not an image of the FP.
     
  11. myst33

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    First beast from the sea (nations) - Nero.

    Second beast from the land (Judea) - the Roman procurator or governor of Judea under Nero, probably Gessius Florus?

    False prophet - hard to say, in around 60-70 AD, many false prophets arose, exactly as Jesus predicted, and let many people astray. So its difficult to choose the one. Maybe its just an allegorization of the spirit of all those false prophets.

    Some other possible view is that the beast is Vespasian and the false prophet is Titus.
     
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  12. Timtofly

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    The beast is an image that comes to life by the breath of Satan. This image that comes to life is placed in the Temple. Satan is seen by all the world bringing this beast to life. Point that out in the first century and you have the text of Revelation 13.
     
  13. myst33

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    Literal reading of a symbolic book will produce a nonsense. Which is what almost all futurists do. They have to, then, create overcomplicated charts and systems, spend half of their life in that... with no result.
     
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  14. TribulationSigns

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    Amen. My point exactly!

    Did you get this, @Douggg ? :)
     
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  15. Timtofly

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    And those who place it onto 1st century news papers are not any different than 19th, 20th, and 21st century newspapers. Have you seen all the over complicated charts of 1st century preterist? Just because you may not have one, does not mean they are not out there. There is no result in the past either. Satan was not revealed in the first century, nor had the Gospel reached 21st century humanity.
     
  16. myst33

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    Actually, no.
    "Humanity" - thats your 21st century interpretation. Why not just the Roman Empire, which is the natural reading of the 1st century writings?

    What do you mean that satan was not revealed - what do you expect, that he will be visible physically?
     
  17. Douggg

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    In Ezekiel 28:16-19, Satan will be revealed physically, after being cast down to earth.

    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

    17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

    19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.



    Satan will be cast down to earth from (the second) heaven in Revelation 12:7-9. Having a time/times/half time left.

    In Revelation 13:4 the world worships the dragon.

    In Revelation 13:15 the world woships the image of the beast.

    In Ezekiel 28:18 God brings a fire in the midst of Satan, turned to ashes.

    When all those things are put together, the false prophet has an image made of the beast person, who will be backed by Satan. The image will be a statue and placed on the temple mount, out in the open in plain site, lifeless. It will be the abomination of desolation, and will be the signal for the Jews in Judeah to flee into the mountains to save their lives.

    As they are fleeing, the two witnesses are battling with the beast in Revelation 11, until he finally overcomes them and has them killed.

    That will be the last straw for God, and He has Satan and his angels cast down to earth, the final enactment to destroy Satan and his mystical kingdom of Babylon the great.

    Cast down to earth, knowing he has but a little time left, Satan is a terror.

    He incarnates the statue image, making it appear to come to life, and speak. The false prophet demands that everyone worship the image or die for refusing.

    The world is plunged into the great tribulation for 1335 days until Jesus returns. At Jesus's Return, the statue will be melted to ashes in the presence of Jesus. And Satan will be exposed there on the temple mount.

    A lone angel will descend, bind Satan with a chain, and Satan cast into the bottomless pit. Revelation 20:1-2. Satan will be physically visible to everyone that day.

    And we are on the verge of those things happening.



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  18. Timtofly

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    The time factor involved in God's plan. It was not just 70 years. It has been 1991 years.

    Yes, a being that walks like a human but has two horns of a lamb. It certainly will not be an invisible force that no one can see. Satan was a physically created being. Angels are physically created beings. Both heaven and earth are physically created reality. There are not two different realities. We are just blind to half of reality.
     
  19. myst33

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    Does not work with Daniel's timeline at all.
    Aha :D

    And the New Jerusalem is a physical literal gigantic city floating over our planet? Something like ISS?
     
  20. Douggg

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