Anathema to Sabbath-keepers - Council of Laodicea

[Cain Spencer]

Vatican council... heretic councils... what's the difference? It's all just as confusing.

 

[visionary]

The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons. And it is not to be doubted but they derived this practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to the purpose.” “Dialogues on the Lord’s Day,” p. 189. London: 1701, By Dr. T.H. Morer (A Church of England divine).

 

[visionary]

The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;…therefore the Christians, for a long time together, did keep their conventions upon the Sabbath, in which some portions of the law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council.” “The Whole Works” of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX,p. 416 (R. Heber’s Edition, Vol XII, p. 416).

 

[Pythons]

The primitive Christians did keep the Sabbath of the Jews;…therefore the Christians, for a long time together, did keep their conventions upon the Sabbath, in which some portions of the law were read: and this continued till the time of the Laodicean council.” “The Whole Works” of Jeremy Taylor, Vol. IX,p. 416 (R. Heber’s Edition, Vol XII, p. 416).

Yes, I'm sure that they did....
...What they didn't do was worship Jesus as God on Saturday.
...Because that's what Christians did on Sunday.

The reason they attenended Sabbath Jewish service was ONLY to reason with the Jews....
...And try to get them to join the Christian Faith.

 

[visionary]

From the apostles’ time until the council of Laodicea, which was about the year 364, the holy observance of the Jews’ Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of many authors: yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it.” “Sunday a Sabbath.” John Ley, p.163. London: 1640.

 

[visionary]

Yes, I'm sure that they did....
...What they didn't do was worship Jesus as God on Saturday.
...Because that's what Christians did on Sunday.

The reason they attenended Sabbath Jewish service was ONLY to reason with the Jews....
...And try to get them to join the Christian Faith.

Not really...

“Except ye make the sabbath a real sabbath (sabbatize the Sabbath,” Greek), ye shall not see the Father.” “The oxyrhynchus Papyri,” pt,1, p.3, Logion 2, verso 4-11 (London Offices of the Egypt Exploration Fund, 1898).

 

[visionary]

Here is another historical attitude documented of the way they understood things back then..

“Thou shalt observe the Sabbath, on account of Him who ceased from His work of creation, but ceased not from His work of providence: it is a rest for meditation of the law, not for idleness of the hands.” “The Anti-Nicene Fathers,” Vol 7,p. 413. From “Constitutions of the Holy Apostles,” a document of the 3rd and 4th Centuries.

 

[visionary]

This was a wide spread faith lived among the believers of Yeshua.. whom you call Jesus Christ.

As early as A.D. 225 there existed large bishoprics or conferences of the Church of the East (Sabbath-keeping) stretching from Palestine to India. Mingana, “Early Spread of Christianity.” Vol.10, p. 460.

 

[visionary]

Gonna have to pull out the notes again.

Is this the one?

363 Synod of Laodicea
In the period between the First and Second Ecumenical Councils there was a Local Council in Laodicea (c. 363) that decreed, by its 7th Canon: "Persons converted from heresies, that is, of the Novatians, Photinians, and Quartodecimans: . . . shall be received by way of renouncing the heresy and through chrismation." Thus, we see here as well that the more tolerant view prevailed over the more rigid. However, St. Basil the Great’s canons or the Laodicean canons, as authoritative as they may have been, were not as yet laws for the whole universal Church. A decision of an Ecumenical Council[23] was needed. Later, the Sixth Ecumenical Council decreed (in Canon 2) to accept the canons of St. Basil the Great and the canons of Laodicea as laws for the whole Church. This took place more than three centuries later.[24]
http://www.holy-trinity.org/ecclesiology/pogodin-reception/reception-ch1.html

That was the Synod declared Ecumenical that postumously declared the apostles and very early church heretics for observiing the date of the Lord's death on the 14th.

“The seventh-day Sabbath was…solemnised by Christ, the Apostles, and primitive Christians, till the Laodicean Council did in manner quite abolish the observations of it.” “Dissertation on the Lord’s Day,” pp. 33, 34

 

[Cain Spencer]

Visionary, you posted 5 times in a row without any interaction! lol You can probably hold a neat conversation with a wall couldn't you?

 

[Standing Up]

Visionary, you posted 5 times in a row without any interaction! lol You can probably hold a neat conversation with a wall couldn't you?

Sometimes that's what it feels like.

 

[Standing Up]

Vatican council... heretic councils... what's the difference? It's all just as confusing.

You're talking about those after 1054? No need to be confused.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Visionary, you posted 5 times in a row without any interaction! lol You can probably hold a neat conversation with a wall couldn't you?

How boutz ya going over to here and give them a piece of our mind

http://www.christianforums.com/t7462687/http://www.christianforums.com/t7462687-5/#post54681091
sabbath for Jews and Gentiles

 

[Standing Up]

Yes, I'm sure that they did....
...What they didn't do was worship Jesus as God on Saturday.
...Because that's what Christians did on Sunday.

So the Christians who worship on Saturday aren't really Christians?

 

[Standing Up]

Did they reject any of the doctines that came out of it or did they accept all of them? Just curious

Tough to get a straight answer from RC or EO on this; because of infalliblity questions I suppose.

The evidence is that the decisions of the local synod of Laodicea were accepted as binding on the whole Church of the time.

 

[visionary]

“The ancient Christians were very careful in the observance of Saturday, or the seventh day…It is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival…Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assembles on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath, Epiphanius says the same.” “Antiquities of the Christian Church,” Vol.II Book XX, chap. 3, sec.1, 66. 1137,1138.

 

[visionary]

You're talking about those after 1054? No need to be confused.

“In the last half of that century St. Ambrose of Milan stated officially that the Abyssinian bishop, Museus, had ‘traveled almost everywhere in the country of the Seres’ (China). For more than seventeen centuries the Abyssinian Church continued to sanctify Saturday as the holy day of the fourth commandment.” Ambrose, DeMoribus, Brachmanorium Opera Ominia, 1132, found in Migne, Patrologia Latima, Vol.17, pp.1131,1132.

 

[visionary]

So the Christians who worship on Saturday aren't really Christians?

Down even to the fifth century the observance of the Jewish Sabbath was continued in the Christian church. “Ancient Christianity Exemplified,” Lyman Coleman, ch. 26, sec. 2, p. 527.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Tough to get a straight answer from RC or EO on this; because of infalliblity questions I suppose.

The evidence is that the decisions of the local synod of Laodicea were accepted as binding on the whole Church of the time.

Hoping the RCs and EOs will chime in more on this

 

[visionary]

But not God's Church.
These were just men makeing it up as they went along, i.e. traditions of men.
And we know what Jesus thought of traditions of men; don't we?

In Jerome’s day (420 A.D.) the devoutest Christians did ordinary work on Sunday. “Treatise of the Sabbath Day,” by Dr. White, Lord Bishop of Ely, p. 219.