• Welcome to Christian Forums
  1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a forum to discuss Christianity in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  2. The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members. Please review our current Faith Groups list for information on which faith groups are considered to be Christian faiths. Christian members please remember to read the Statement of Purpose threads for each forum within Christian Congregations before posting in the forum.

Ana Maria Archila who screamed at Flake is an illegal alien from Columbia

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by sdowney717, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. Arcangl86

    Arcangl86 Newbie

    +3,070
    Anglican
    Single
    US-Green
    And as we already agreed, legal immigrants can be deported. But are you saying just because she isn't an American citizen she doesn't have the right to express her opinion to Congress?
     
  2. No Swansong

    No Swansong Formerly Jtbdad Christian on every board!

    +618
    Christian
    Married
    US-Green
    LOL
     
  3. sdowney717

    sdowney717 Newbie

    +1,945
    Christian
  4. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    Illegal aliens, spys, bots, diplomats etc. do not get to decide anything about the governance of the US.

    The only people that are actually "part of the United States" are citizens. Neither welcome guests nor illegal intruders, nor invaders are part of the United States they are part of whatever country they are legal citizens of.
     
  5. Arcangl86

    Arcangl86 Newbie

    +3,070
    Anglican
    Single
    US-Green
    Oh, will we return her taxes to her then? Is she immune from all laws of the United States? She doesn't have the right to vote, but she has both a legal and moral right to express her opinions about the governance of the country.
     
  6. No Swansong

    No Swansong Formerly Jtbdad Christian on every board!

    +618
    Christian
    Married
    US-Green
    and she didn't decide anything.
     
  7. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    Like an every other country in the world a non citizen is not immune from the laws of the country they are in and like a every other country in the world non citizens have no say in what those laws are. I never disagreed that she has the right to express any opinion she chooses to express. She just hasn't got the right to insist that anyone to pay attention to her opinion. She also has no right whatsoever to expect her views to carry any weight with an elected representative of the actual citizens. As for taxes. IF she has paid taxes to the US government it is because she profited as a consequence of being allowed by that government to be working in in the US. She has no cause for complaint on that score. Of course, if you would like top change the constitution and make it the law of the land that all taxpayers get a voice in government, I suggest you call your congressperson and advocate that he/she introduce such a bill. I might even be for it should it be expressly stated that only taxpayers a get such a voice in government.
     
  8. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    Good thing as she ought not get to decide a thing in a country she is nt a citizen of. That is exactly what I was telling the poster that thinks she and any other non citizen that just happens to be here ought to get to have a say in governance.
     
  9. Go Braves

    Go Braves On semi-hiatus here. Y'all take care.

    +7,918
    United States
    Catholic
    In Relationship
    US-Republican
  10. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    A very loud one from what I understand. And she can use it all she wants. I just don't want our representatives to pay any attention to her as I think she has no business meddling in the affairs of what to here is a foreign country. I thought a lot of people were against that sort of meddling in US politics by foreign nationals. What happened?
     
  11. No Swansong

    No Swansong Formerly Jtbdad Christian on every board!

    +618
    Christian
    Married
    US-Green
    I don't care where it comes from,if it is wise counsel I want our leaders to listen,I'm not claiming it was wise only that if it is a wise person should consider it.
     
  12. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    From what I gather, this wasn't some sage proffering wisdom in a calm and considered manner. Nor was her opinion sought after by the person she thrust it upon.
     
  13. Go Braves

    Go Braves On semi-hiatus here. Y'all take care.

    +7,918
    United States
    Catholic
    In Relationship
    US-Republican
    Well, I'd be putting forth a whole lot more energy into how Trump failed to properly sanction a foreign country for meddling in US politics than being upset about a sexual assault victim speaking out about that trauma. The latter has no international lines, it's a human being experience. There are plenty of folks born on American soil who've spoken up loudly but not been heard, so I'm all for anybody who can actually be listened to.
     
  14. No Swansong

    No Swansong Formerly Jtbdad Christian on every board!

    +618
    Christian
    Married
    US-Green
    Was John the Baptist calm? As for whether opinion being sought after she was in a public building, I can think of at least a few cases in which wise counsel wasn't sought but was appropriate.
     
  15. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

    +3,301
    Lutheran
    Married
    US-Others
    I cannot tell you how calm John the Baptist was while he was crying out in the wilderness as opposed to screaming in the halls of power. I believe John the Baptist was beheaded. I don't advocate that. He did not violate Herod's space but simply gave his opinion to all that would hear and he also was not a foreigner but a citizen in Herod's domain. Had an Arab been publicly shaming Herod about Herod's behavior I believe the Jews would have payed that Arab little heed. I expect my fellow citizens to have influence in the workings of government whether I agree with them or not, but since I would not consider it my place to go to a foreign country and tell their officials how to behave , I find it ludicrous for foreign nationals to think they should do that. I would also wager that those foreign nationals would think me ill mannered and presumptuous to act in that manner while a guest in their country.
     
  16. No Swansong

    No Swansong Formerly Jtbdad Christian on every board!

    +618
    Christian
    Married
    US-Green
    Your entire argument is summed up in the last two sentences. To which I reply, again, if it is wise counsel, I don't care who it comes from and neither should anyone else.
     
  17. Mountainmanbob

    Mountainmanbob Goat Whisperer Supporter

    +7,616
    United States
    Calvinist
    Married
    US-Republican
  18. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

    +2,574
    Messianic
    Single
    Most of us do care. We don't agree with the tactics of
    smear and intimidation used so commonly by the left.
     
  19. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

    +2,574
    Messianic
    Single
    Because so many politicians don't respect the laws.
     
  20. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

    +2,574
    Messianic
    Single
    No, they don't, which is why we have laws in the first place.
     
Loading...