An immigration crisis manufactured?

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The whole problem in a nutshell:

“Trump’s policies have swung from one extreme to the other,” Schey said. “There’s no consistency; there’s no strategic planning.” (Immigration detention centers nearly empty as Trump claims border crisis. The Guardian)​

The Trump policy is to release them. If he is trying to stop illegal immigration the arrest record under his administration, of illegal immigrants, is woefully lacking:

State and local government reluctance to enforce federal immigration laws and cooperate with the Trump administration has limited its ability to arrest and, eventually, deport large numbers of illegal immigrants. At the current rate, ICE under the Trump administration will be able to arrest about half a million fewer illegal immigrants relative to the Obama administration even if President Trump serves two full terms. (President Trump Isn’t Breaking Immigration Arrest Records. CATO at Liberty)
Trump is gifted at doing nothing in dramatic fashion. He ran principally on stopping illegal immigration and his policy of doing nothing, has done nothing but encourage it. The guy is about as genuine as a three dollar bill. I almost voted for him over this issue and his performance since taking office tells me, he had no intention or capability to address the issue, let alone fix it.
 
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I have accepted as fact that every 'crisis' coming out of this administration is manufactured.
The administration is the crisis.
 
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Just because some are mostly empty, does not mean that others are woefully over capacity.

That said, yes this crisis is manufactured.

Although border crossings are on the upswing, they are still less than they were in the early 2000s. Historically speaking, this is not a crisis.

Trump derided 'catch and release', but instead of hiring more immigration judges so that the process could be 'catch, adjudicate, release/deport', he instituted 'catch and hold until detention centers are over capacity and declare a crisis -- oh and release'.

He shut down the government, so that no immigration cases could be processed, making the backlog even larger.

Throttling down the entries for asylum at the border has naturally caused the huge pileup of people at the border.

Certainly there is a crisis in Central America that is sending more than usual numbers of refugees our way, but Trump's actions have largely exacerbated the problem and made it ugly so he can point to it as a 'crisis' rather than attempting to solve it.
 
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It's absolutely manufactured. Government statistics support the assertion than illegal seizures at the border have been dropping since before Donny's unfortunate presidency: There Is No Border Crisis

Being scared of brown people and a virulent, hateful racist like Donny is not a "crisis" - not one at the border, anyway.
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Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey says state will help Yuma with border emergency, but doesn't get into specifics

Texas Senate declares migrant surge an emergency

Just because some are mostly empty, does not mean that others are woefully over capacity.

That said, yes this crisis is manufactured.

Although border crossings are on the upswing, they are still less than they were in the early 2000s. Historically speaking, this is not a crisis.

You're talking about illegal crossings there...not arrests. While more people were crossing, we didn't have the infrastructure to arrest them....so they weren't filling detention centers and courts. The vast majority of those illegals were not claiming asylum either.

Trump derided 'catch and release', but instead of hiring more immigration judges so that the process could be 'catch, adjudicate, release/deport', he instituted 'catch and hold until detention centers are over capacity and declare a crisis -- oh and release'.

Hiring more judges....I'm sure there's hundreds of judges jumping at the opportunity to dig into the half million + case backlog....but they just haven't been given the chance lol.

He shut down the government, so that no immigration cases could be processed, making the backlog even larger.

Throttling down the entries for asylum at the border has naturally caused the huge pileup of people at the border.

He did shut down the government....over support for his plan to slow illegal immigration.

Certainly there is a crisis in Central America that is sending more than usual numbers of refugees our way, but Trump's actions have largely exacerbated the problem and made it ugly so he can point to it as a 'crisis' rather than attempting to solve it.

This problem has been steadily increasing for 5 years.
 
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You're talking about illegal crossings there...not arrests.

Border apprehensions:

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Hiring more judges....I'm sure there's hundreds of judges jumping at the opportunity to dig into the half million + case backlog....but they just haven't been given the chance lol.

We might have found out if DOJ didn't have to freeze its hiring of immigration judges "due to budgetary constraints".
 
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Certainly there is a crisis in Central America that is sending more than usual numbers of refugees our way, but Trump's actions have largely exacerbated the problem and made it ugly so he can point to it as a 'crisis' rather than attempting to solve it.

There are large numbers of American made weapons being illegally imported into the Caribbean and Central American nations. These weapons, used by criminals and terrorists, are destabilizing these nations and causing the desperate conditions that lead to refugee migrations. This is something that Trump could do something about if the NRA would let him.
 
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This is something that Trump could do something about if the NRA would let him.

Right, or we could send aid to these countries to try to help the conditions there. Instead, of course, Trump has indicated he wants to cut all aid to zero to the Northern Triangle countries.
 
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Right, or we could send aid to these countries to try to help the conditions there. Instead, of course, Trump has indicated he wants to cut all aid to zero to the Northern Triangle countries.

There were USA funded programs to address these problems that were beginning to show real progress when Trump cancelled them. If he needs suggestions to balance the budget how about eliminating corporate welfare and the bloat in the military?
 
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Right, or we could send aid to these countries to try to help the conditions there. Instead, of course, Trump has indicated he wants to cut all aid to zero to the Northern Triangle countries.

We've been sending aid for years...

The only result is millions of people fleeing these nations. The idea that cutting aid is the problem is silly.
 
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Those were back in the day when a Mexican was apprehended in the morning, then again in the afternoon, then again in the evening.

It's simply not comparable. If we could return a Guatemalan or Honduran the same day we catch them...you might have a good point. As it is, you're making a false equivalency.
 
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Those were back in the day when a Mexican was apprehended in the morning, then again in the afternoon, then again in the evening.

When did it change? What is your evidence?
 
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Immigration detention centers nearly empty as Trump claims border crisis
With a number of immigration centres at just 25% capacity, is the crisis at the US border manufactured?

This article will give some detail and perspective regarding the problem.

Detention center puts immigration spotlight on New Mexico town

Look at the reporting of local news in Las Cruces NM and El paso TX to get an idea of the immigration headache the local communities. They are subjected to immigration levels that overwhelm to the locall enforcement agencies and the accomodation for housing the immigrants and the costs to local tax payers are significant and ongoing.
 
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