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An ex-pastor's opinion on evangelical Christianity and the Rapture

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by Emanuel333221, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. Emanuel333221

    Emanuel333221 New Member

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    I found the following comment on Facebook. It's from a former protestant pastor who apparently had a movie made about his life. What do you guys think?

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  2. RayJeena

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    Would you be able to link to the actual post in Facebook? The text in the image is quite small to read fully (and that's with my reading glasses, lol!).




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  3. 2Timothy2:15

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    1. I think he was never a pastor in the first place, a true pastor.
    2. He says he wanted to be famous, no pastor should have this character trait.
     
  4. rockytopva

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    When the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? - Luke 18:8

    By the time the rapture does come nobody will be waiting for it, especially with this kind of teaching around. So on that day Christ indeed will come as a thief with few watching.
     
  5. RayJeena

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    This is very strange. From what I can tell from the image, it seems to be a public post and therefore accessible to anyone, yet Googling it brings up nothing. [​IMG]

    Also, the author is Mike Elliott, whereas the movie was about the life of a Michael Glatze. However, I did find a Facebook profile for a Michael Glatze-Elliott, though that seems to be in some kind of transition, judging from the comments under the first post.

    Whoever he is, I wish him all the best, however it plays out.

    As for the (far more easily read) thread title, I can definitely sympathize. I used to be a pre-trib in my beliefs. Nowadays I'm more just a wait-and-see kinda gal. :)

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  6. ~Anastasia~

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    Hello Emmanuel, and welcome to CF! I pray that you are blessed by being here.

    I'm interested to be a "fly on the wall" in this discussion, for a bit. In fact, I'd be interested to chat with the poster, if he were someone I knew.

    I can relate to a lot of what he said - after decades of loving Christ, and being non-denominational at the end, I became frustrated with certain aspects (though I won't say the rapture idea bothered me that much, although I stopped agreeing with it some years ago - my only concern is that some folks held onto the Rapture as their hope, and if they turn out to be wrong, I figured they would be totally unprepared for what would come).

    I've done a lot of study, prayed a lot, sought God, and found much peace, finally. I'm not Catholic, either, and have disagreements with them as well, but understanding something of how theology has changed since the time of the Apostles, things been added, things been rejected, rightly and wrongly, all while most folks are really doing the best they can to seek God, has helped me a great deal.

    I'm not sure where your discussion will go, but the premise of it is an interesting thought.

    Again, welcome to CF. :)
     
  7. Emanuel333221

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    I found it in his Facebook but the comment is no longer there. He must've taken it down.
     
  8. Emanuel333221

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    Someone named James Hartline wrote the following about Michael Glatze AKA Mike Elliott:

    As I learned very quickly early on in my correspondences with Michael Glatze, I cannot get along with a person who is all over the map in his theology and his approach to Christianity. Mr. Glatze simply wants a microphone and wants the floor even when he isn’t qualified to be speaking on a topic. His form of Christianity is a patchwork quilt of superficial ideas that he collects in the same fashion as an antique dealer collects old trinkets. Once he has collected a few trinkets he self-declares himself an expert on that trinket collection without the benefit of having any serious, deep education on the history and the meaning and historical significance of said trinkets.

    In the short time that Glatze has been a self-declared ex-gay Christian he has short-circuited paying the dues that any reputable Christian pastor or evangelist has had to pay, to sacrifice and to suffer, to earn the right to be a God-ordained minister. This is in large part due to the corrupt and media-money-hungry pro-family ministries that are constantly in search of a token ex-gay personality that they can use, abuse and wave vindicatively at the equally corrupt and media-money-hungry radicalized gay political machine that drives the core engine of America’s cultural homosexual movement. Without even considering his lack of dedication to Jesus Christ or the fact that he had zero examples of sacrificing his life for Christianity, the pro-family hucksters baptized Mr. Glatze as their latest professional ex-gay token. It is one more reason why I, as a former homosexual who has been faithfully and very publicly serving Christ inside of one of the largest homosexual communities in the United States for 20 years, cannot be involved in most of the so-called professional pro-family organizational groups. They reek with corruption, superficiality, insincerity, greed and hypocrisy. Which is explains why they all so easily made so many backroom deals with demonic Donald Trump.

    Michael Glatze has gone from Mormonism to Catholicism to implied Buddhism and now the inevitable appeasement and apology tourism that is the infamous trademark of the professional ex-gay movement. The professional ex-gay movement is so utterly superificial in its relationship with Christ and it is their rejection of Christ’s mandate for all Christ-followers to willingly suffer and embrace sacrificial self-denial that defines the never ending hypocrisy of the likes of Alan Chambers, Randy Thomas, John Paulk and now Michael Glatze. They all have one thing in common: the refusal to pick up one’s cross to follow Christ. The narcissism and the sinful, selfish desire to serve and worship self which is at the core of homosexuality and the gay political movement is simply tranferred into the professional ex-gay movement leaders’ lives and therein lies their complete failure to change the culture and to win converts out of homosexuality to follow Christ.

    I attempted to warn Michael Glatze that he was making seriously flawed theological decisions and his beliefs were not sound Biblical ones. He wouldn’t listen. All he wanted to do was “school me” on Christianity and preach at me. I have been following the Lord for decades. My testimony as an ex-homosexual for 20 years who is battling a very famous scientific case of AIDS all the while living – not in some “safe” insulated little conservative town in Wyoming – but inside of the 4th largest gay community in America, has been broadcast all over the world and shared on many TV and news programs including the 700 Club, newspapers, radio show and magazines. I have written hundreds of articles and produced over 60,000 photographs and 400 videos of my life as a born again Christian ex-homosexual living inside of the gay community. Thousands upon thousands of gays see me everyday and how I live my life as a Christian ex-homosexual, and not one of them can ever say they have witnessed me returning to homosexuality. Yet, in all of my communications with Mr. Glatze, he wanted to teach me what Christianity is and isn’t, he wanted to instruct me on “correct” theology. He had no real desire to actually listen or learn from my mistakes, my experiences or my knowledge of God and the Bible. The reality is, he just wants to be the boss, the show and time will eventually unveil a Michael Glatze who never really humbled himself and had a true born again Christian experience. Rather, he simply mutated and adapted to his circumstances in a manner that accomodated his pursuit of self-comfortability – something that seems be disasterously innate in both the professional ex-gay movement and the radicalized gay political movement.
     
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