American workers are the poorest paid with the worst conditions in the OECD

[eclipsenow]

Hello my American friends,
I'm really sad that you're all going through this.
Feeling insecure?
Neighbourhood crime going up?
The poor starting to litter the streets?
This is why.

NB: Before anyone calls me a Socialist
I'm strictly Ordo-liberal / Social-Liberal (same thing.) Basically, if the State offers good enough Education & Healthcare & Welfare - then the market can do pretty much everything else.

 

[royal priest]

Working at MacDonalds is the quintessential job!

 

[Speedwell]

I'm strictly Ordo-liberal / Social-Liberal (same thing.) Basically, if the State offers good enough Education & Healthcare & Welfare - then the market can do pretty much everything else.

But that IS socialism by US standards. In fact there are many in this country, some in this forum, who would feel justified in calling you a Marxist.

 

[mlepfitjw]

I disagree.

 

[Speedwell]

I disagree.

About what?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Hello my American friends,
I'm really sad that you're all going through this.
Feeling insecure?
Neighbourhood crime going up?
The poor starting to litter the streets?
This is why.

NB: Before anyone calls me a Socialist
I'm strictly Ordo-liberal / Social-Liberal (same thing.) Basically, if the State offers good enough Education & Healthcare & Welfare - then the market can do pretty much everything else.

I've been known to work 90 hours a week on occasion. Hard, physical work too.

...But it's doubletime after 8 hours. So I would end up with like 50 or 60 hours of doubletime, which is at a rate of $120. an hour.

(It's worth it)

 

[royal priest]

I've been known to work 90 hours a week on occasion. Hard, physical work too.

Me too. Which is reasonable, as long as it's for a wage that we've agreed to. IMO

 

[royal priest]

Me too. Which is reasonable, as long as it's for a wage that we've agreed to. IMO

Oh, double time! I would have definitely agreed to that!

 

[Occams Barber]

Hello my American friends,
I'm really sad that you're all going through this.
Feeling insecure?
Neighbourhood crime going up?
The poor starting to litter the streets?
This is why.

NB: Before anyone calls me a Socialist
I'm strictly Ordo-liberal / Social-Liberal (same thing.) Basically, if the State offers good enough Education & Healthcare & Welfare - then the market can do pretty much everything else.

A few months ago, out of curiosity, I went looking for comparative country figures on mandated employee benefits like annual leave, sick leave, personal leave, parental leave etc. I remember the shock as I gradually saw that, for American workers, none of these things are mandated. This includes a reasonable minimum wage and a defined work week.

Along with the health care issue, low wages and the lack of basic entitlements, which we take for granted, this seems to help explain the social turmoil which is gripping your country.

OB

 

[Landon Caeli]

Oh, double time! I would have definitely agreed to that!

Sometimes, on occasion, I cane make close to $10,000 in a single week. And if I adjust my w-4, I can take it all home.

Pretty good for an uneducated dummy like me.

(But it is hard, hard work)

 

[eclipsenow]

But that IS socialism by US standards. In fact there are many in this country, some in this forum, who would feel justified in calling you a Marxist.

Which shows how blinkered the entire country is.
Joe Biden is a 'radical socialist' but he would fit neatly into Australia's Liberal party. Indeed, because he doesn't necessarily stand for universal government healthcare - he would probably be on the far right of our Liberal party!

America is a very peculiar place.

 

[royal priest]

Sometimes, on occasion, I cane make close to $10,000 in a single week. And if I adjust my w-4, I can take it all home.

Pretty good for an uneducated dummy like me.

(But it is hard, hard work)

You're uneducated like me? No wonder why we like Trump!

 

[eclipsenow]

Me too. Which is reasonable, as long as it's for a wage that we've agreed to. IMO

Is it reasonable for your family and kids if the employer starts to expect that?
Is it reasonable if you're willing to do that, but the employer starts to call anyone who doesn't do that a part-time casual employee?

And since when oh when did the American government outsource their healthcare obligations to corporations to add on as 'benefits'?

Again, America is a very peculiar place.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

I can do my own complaining. I don't need your help. Right now, I'm doing just fine, here in the U.S.A. Go box with some kangaroos and leave us alone.

 

[Fantine]

I think it comes from the same book of "Grim" Fairytales as the idea that, with 9 times as many cases as almost every other country in.the world, we are winning the war on COVID. If it were not so tragically dangerous, the idea that people believed it would almost be funny.

It's the same with the idea that our people are the most prosperous on earth. Nope. Healthiest? Nope. Best educated? Nope. Happiest? Nope.

Just Grim Fairy Tales. Real news will.set you free.

 

[rambot]

I've been known to work 90 hours a week on occasion. Hard, physical work too.

...But it's doubletime after 8 hours. So I would end up with like 50 or 60 hours of doubletime, which is at a rate of $120. an hour.

(It's worth it)

so?

The braggadocio of Americans and the "look how many hours I've work" is not really healthful. Work life balance is an amazing thing that actually makes people healthier.

 

[Landon Caeli]

so?

The braggadocio of Americans and the "look how many hours I've work" is not really healthful. Work life balance is an amazing thing that actually makes people healthier.

 

[royal priest]

so?

The braggadocio of Americans and the "look how many hours I've work" is not really healthful. Work life balance is an amazing thing that actually makes people healthier.

Of course, but it's nice to know the extra money is there to be had if you want it.

 

[MIDutch]

I've been known to work 90 hours a week on occasion. Hard, physical work too.

...But it's doubletime after 8 hours. So I would end up with like 50 or 60 hours of doubletime, which is at a rate of $120. an hour.

(It's worth it)

Americans are so lucky that almost all of them can earn $120 an hour like you do.

I'm sure that a US average hourly wage of $120/hour is reflected in the link in the OP.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I've been known to work 90 hours a week on occasion. Hard, physical work too.

...But it's doubletime after 8 hours. So I would end up with like 50 or 60 hours of doubletime, which is at a rate of $120. an hour.

(It's worth it)

Isn't that kind of like blood money, like selling off your own blood?