"America First" caucus "a common respect for uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions"

[Ken-1122]

It’s not just “America First.”

Yes it is! This has nothing to do with history, or any of that other noise you tryin' to bring into the picture. I'm talking about the idea of America first; basically nationalism. Not racial nationalism, but Nationalism as apposed to Globalism. Why is the idea of America first a bad thing?

 

[Triumvirate]

Yes it is! This has nothing to do with history, or any of that other noise you tryin' to bring into the picture. I'm talking about the idea of America first; basically nationalism. Not racial nationalism, but Nationalism as apposed to Globalism. Why is the idea of America first a bad thing?

Because it's nationalism, because globalism is a conspiracy theory that gets used by actual white nationalists to con people like you who think race has nothing to do with this?

 

[Ken-1122]

It's a caucus, which isn't that different.

And yeah, it's bad as an idea too.

Why is it a bad idea?

What's on your mind, boo? Why you so mad that you're being told off for using America First? Feeling like America isn't so great again??

I'm just trying to get a straight answer from you. Simply saying it's a bad idea without articulating WHY it is a bad is a very poor argument to make. You need to do better than that.

 

[Ken-1122]

little further back than that. you can do this

You said "the last time it was used". I mentioned Trump using it; if you can come up with someone more recent than that; let's hear it; otherwise my point stands.

 

[Ken-1122]

Because it's nationalism, because globalism is a conspiracy theory that gets used by actual white nationalists to con people like you who think race has nothing to do with this?

As you can see, Nationalism or Globalism has nothing to do with race.
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/globalism-vs-nationalism

 

[Triumvirate]

As you can see, Nationalism or Globalism has nothing to do with race.
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/globalism-vs-nationalism

Who is this person and why exactly should I give two figs about their opinion on whether nationalism/globalism is/isn't racialised? A single blogpost isn't authoritative

But seeing as single websites count, the use of 'globalism' by fascists isn't exactly new, it's at least best part of a couple of decades old

Anti-globalism’s Jewish Problem

 

[Triumvirate]

You said "the last time it was used". I mentioned Trump using it

and he's still using it, like with this Anglo-Saxon guff that is thread topic

so the time before that

come on brah, you got this!

 

[Ken-1122]

Who is this person and why exactly should I give two figs about their opinion on whether nationalism/globalism is/isn't racialised? A single blogpost isn't authoritative

But seeing as single websites count, the use of 'globalism' by fascists isn't exactly new, it's at least best part of a couple of decades old

Anti-globalism’s Jewish Problem

I was just pointing out the difference between nationalist vs racial nationalist. But that's a different subject; this subject is about "America first".

 

[Triumvirate]

I was just pointing out the difference between nationalist vs racial nationalist. But that's a different subject; this subject is about "America first".

Yes, probably best you stop defending the whole nationalism/antiglobalism thing now.

 

[Ken-1122]

and he's still using it, like with this Anglo-Saxon guff that is thread topic

America first has nothing to do with Anglo Saxon guff. America is not a white/anglo saxon country, it is a multi racial country. Every race, and ethnicity on Earth makes up America; to try to limit it to just one race or ethnicity misrepresents what America is all about.

 

[Ken-1122]

Yes, probably best you stop defending the whole nationalism/antiglobalism thing now.

If you have a problem with nationalism/globalism, start another thread and I would be happy to discuss it with you. I just don't want to derail this one

 

[Triumvirate]

America first has nothing to do with Anglo Saxon guff.

Do you want to maybe refresh yourself on what this thread is about

Yknow, that 'America First' caucus that claims America is a country of Anglo-Saxon values

 

[Triumvirate]

If you have a problem with nationalism/globalism, start another thread and I would be happy to discuss it with you. I just don't want to derail this one

Curious, you seemed quite keen to bring it up and defend it a second ago.

 

[Triumvirate]

This thread made me think of this evergreen tweet:

Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views
Me: You were censored for wanting lower taxes?
Con: LOL no...no not those views
Me: So....deregulation?
Con: Haha no not those views either
Me: Which views, exactly?
Con: Oh, you know the ones

 

[Ken-1122]

Do you want to maybe refresh yourself on what this thread is about

Yknow, that 'America First' caucus that claims America is a country of Anglo-Saxon values

Anything to back that up? Or are we assuming that because you say so, therefore it is true.

 

[Triumvirate]

Anything to back that up? Or are we assuming that because you say so, therefore it is true.

it is literally the topic of the thread, read the OP

 

[Ken-1122]

Curious, you seemed quite keen to bring it up and defend it a second ago.

I compared it to nationalism. If you are suggesting my comparison was an attempt to derail the thread, I can assure you that was not my intent.

 

[Triumvirate]

I compared it to nationalism. If you are suggesting my comparison was an attempt to derail the thread, I can assure you that was not my intent.

On the contrary, I don't think you were derailing the thread. Nationalism is very surely relevant to this thread topic.

I'm just curious why you suddenly got all shy talking about it after I pointed out that fascists have been using the term globalists for nearly 20 years minimum.

 

[Ken-1122]

it is literally the topic of the thread, read the OP

The person who wrote the story accused it of being about Anglo Saxon values; nobody associated with it makes this claim. Obviously the person who wrote the story has a biased view of it.

 

[Triumvirate]

The person who wrote the story accused it of being about Anglo Saxon values; nobody associated with it makes this claim. Obviously the person who wrote the story has a biased view of it.

Where's your evidence they have a biased view of it?

This just gets better and better