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"America First" caucus "a common respect for uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions"

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by public hermit, Apr 17, 2021.

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  1. public hermit

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    "Conservative House of Representatives Republicans plan to form an "America First" caucus to promote the policies of ex-President Donald Trump and said on Friday the group would soon release a policy platform.

    The platform promotes "a common respect for uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions" and advocates for infrastructure with aesthetic value that "befits the progeny of European architecture," Punchbowl News reported on Friday."


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-new...america-first-caucus-raises-hackles-over-race
     
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  2. Sabertooth

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    Even though he was ostensibly accused of being a white supremacist on a regular basis, I don't remember him actually advancing "white supremacy" policies.
    Could this be a "false flag" movement...? [​IMG]
     
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  3. public hermit

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    What would that mean in this instance? It's fabricated? I don't know. But Matt Gaetz has already signed on, if that tells us anything.
     
  4. Sabertooth

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    I know that white supremacists got behind him, but so did conservatives of other nationalities, evangelicals, conservative homosexuals and, even, many Democrats in our neck of the woods. He might have appealed to white supremacists, but his appeal was broader than that. The "Anglo-Saxon" emphasis seems a bit narrower than what he demonstrated in office.

    If he wasn't a white supremacist before, the "Anglo-Saxon" identification would make him one, now. That is why I suspected this to be a false flag action.
    Wouldn't that make him to be anti-Semitic, too?
    That is another accusation that I did not see fulfilled.
     
  5. public hermit

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    I'm still not understanding what you mean by false flag. Do you mean the supposed caucus is really a ploy by Democrats to put forward a narrative of their own making? I guess that could happen.

    I don't see Democrats having to do much work to show this caucus (assuming it's actual) is an extension of the last administration, in spirit at least. There's no need for a false flag to nurse the narrative.

    Of the two scenarios presented, the simplest explanation is this caucus represents the intention (meaning) of the last administration.

    What is interesting is the use of "Anglo-Saxon" instead of "western." That reads to me as flat out white supremacy.
     
  6. Sabertooth

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    To me, too. That is what strikes me as odd.

    The possibilities (as I see them),
    1. The white supremacy demographic wants to create a party to accommodate him (ride his coattails);
    2. Antifa is creating this narrative to keep him and his political heirs from gaining traction.
     
  7. public hermit

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    I definitely agree with 1. My credence level for 2 is pretty low. I guess time will tell. I didn't get the sense the report is thoroughly vetted.
     
  8. WolfGate

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    Seeing as how Marjorie Greene's staffer Nick Dyer has confirmed the group and flyer, and Gaetz and Gohmert have tweeted about joining, it's real and not a false flag. Many articles on a quick search will get you those.

    Let that wing of the GOP become more and more blatant in their racism. It will finally give the rest of the party the backbone to take out the filth and get back to competing for the citizen's support on issues that help us all, an arena where conservatives have some good ideas that have recently gotten lost behind the politics of lies.
     
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  9. public hermit

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    Progeny of European architecture? I know defenders will say it's reference is to political ideals, but it reads "white folks."

    Well, I hope conservatives like Democrat administrations. This is trashy stuff.
     
  10. Gene2memE

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    Even ignoring the racial dimensions, its awfully worded. So awkwardly nebulous and vague.

    I hope by "uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions" they mean Enlightenment values tied to a bicameral legislature, a strongly independent judiciary and bureaucray.

    Unfortunately, this could also mean rotten boroughs, executing leaders, peerage, sectarianism, a passage between the state Church and parliament, and a tendency to "accidentally" end up colonising other countries. Oh, and helping to start major global conflicts.
     
  11. Sabertooth

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    As close as he came to being re-elected last time, I can't see Trump abandoning so many of his previous endorsements. It seems that he would try to maintain what he has and get more if he can.

    A white supremacy party cannot do that for him.
     
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    Ah yes. The past is not nearly as troublesome once we literally whitewash it.

    I have changed my mind! Instead of doing the hard work of trying to fix our problems I have opted for the Ostrich Defense. Sign me up. I am going to stick my head in the sand until we are back in the days of Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best.
     
  14. Elliewaves

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    I feel like this is a lead up to a joke about a Jewish space laser. Or in the case of MTG, it could be a lead up to real proposed legislation against Jewish space lasers.
     
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  15. TLK Valentine

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    Why is it odd?

    Why aren't you considering the obvious third possibility?

    3. It's legit.​
     
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  16. TLK Valentine

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    Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, "Unite the Right..."

    They can certainly try...
     
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    Hmm, having second thoughts about the decision to employ the Ostrich defense and "unite the white" are these the people that I would have to keep company with? Forget it, I guess instead of white washing history we will need to concentrate on the problems that really do exist.
     
  18. Larnievc

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    Finally a political movement for old rich Anglos.

    America will never be the same.
     
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  19. TLK Valentine

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    It's a pretty problem for the "moderate" right... no matter how many times they say "we're not with these guys," there's no getting around the fact that these guys are with them..

    Umm... how many times have they said "we're not with these guys," again?
     
  20. durangodawood

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    Oh birther. Beating this horse again.

    Personally one style I cannot stand is neo-Palladian classical revival. I tolerate it in the US Capitol and certain other historical buildings. But more of this dispiriting brick brutality? Please, no. (Liberty University)

    [​IMG]
     
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