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"Also you have forgotten ..Adonai disciplines those he loves and whips everyone he accepts as a son.”

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"Also you have forgotten the counsel which speaks with you as sons:

“My son, don’t despise the discipline of Adonai
or become despondent when he corrects you.

6 For Adonai disciplines those he loves
and whips everyone he accepts as a son.”
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"Also you have forgotten the counsel which speaks with you as sons:

“My son, don’t despise the discipline of Adonai
or become despondent when he corrects you.

6 For Adonai disciplines those he loves
and whips everyone he accepts as a son.”
[c]"
Thank you for sharing! I had never read this Hebrews' account in the Complete Jewish Bible it has such impact. I couldn't resist sharing the entire chapter:

"So then, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, (Those listed in previous chapter 11) let us, too, put aside every impediment — that is, the sin which easily hampers our forward movement — and keep running with endurance in the contest set before us, 2 looking away to the Initiator and Completer of that trusting,[a] Yeshua — who, in exchange for obtaining the joy set before him, endured execution on a stake as a criminal, scorning the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.[b] 3 Yes, think about him who endured such hostility against himself from sinners, so that you won’t grow tired or become despondent. 4 You have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood in the contest against sin.

5 Also you have forgotten the counsel which speaks with you as sons:

“My son, don’t despise the discipline of Adonai
or become despondent when he corrects you.

6 For Adonai disciplines those he loves
and whips everyone he accepts as a son.”
[c]
7 Regard your endurance as discipline; God is dealing with you as sons. For what son goes undisciplined by his father? 8 All legitimate sons undergo discipline; so if you don’t, you’re a mamzer and not a son!

9 Furthermore, we had physical fathers who disciplined us, and we respected them; how much more should we submit to our spiritual Father and live! 10 For they disciplined us only for a short time and only as best they could; but he disciplines us in a way that provides genuine benefit to us and enables us to share in his holiness.

11 Now, all discipline, while it is happening, does indeed seem painful, not enjoyable; but for those who have been trained by it, it later produces its peaceful fruit, which is righteousness. 12 So,

strengthen your drooping arms,
and steady your tottering knees;
[d]
13 and

make a level path for your feet;[e]
so that what has been injured will not get wrenched out of joint but rather will be healed.

14 Keep pursuing shalom with everyone and the holiness without which no one will see the Lord... " Hebrews 12:1-14
 
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since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses,

Cloud of Witnesses Meaning​

The phrase "since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses" comes from Hebrews 12:1 in the Bible. It encourages believers to run the race of faith with perseverance, throwing off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. The "cloud of witnesses" refers to the faithful people from biblical history who are seen as examples and encouragers for Christians today.

These witnesses are not literally watching from heaven but serve as spiritual guides and inspirations based on their faith and endurance. The passage suggests that understanding the legacy of these witnesses can motivate and support believers in their own spiritual journeys.
 
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