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All Read: Political Threads

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Davidnic, Mar 10, 2012.

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  1. Davidnic

    Davidnic Well-Known Member Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Please remember that political threads are to be made in the political subforum of OBOB.

    If your thread is a Bishops statement then it can be in the main part of OBOB. If it is your political view on a Bishops statement that spirals into Republican vs Democrat it will be moved or deleted.

    Special consideration will be given, as was discussed in the creation of the political area, to threads on abortion. We do not want the issue of abortion relegated to a sub area. It is a central moral issue for Catholics. But if a thread becomes a political battle and not a theological discussion it will be moved.

    So threads on abortion and Bishops statements that apply to moral theology and moral action can stay in the main forum. So can moral discussions of politically related issues if they are mainly from a view of theology and not politics. If they become a political debate more than a theological discussion they will be moved or closed.

    It is a fine line and we count on responsible thread making.

    Also stay away from flames. To be blunt, If you can not engage in political discussion as an adult do not engage in it. Such discussion on a message board is a privilege based on how you all can interact as adults. We will not have a repeat of four years ago in OBOB, which resulted in the creation of the political area due to the fact no one could treat each other civilly. Many people were banned or left during that time. If people can not act respectfully in disagreement then warnings, infractions and bans will happen. OBOB accounted for nearly 20-30 reports a week last election season. That will not happen again.

    This thread will stay open for questions for a few days. Do not report someones question. Do not purposefully ask goading questions.

    Some instruction right off the bat. The Bishops have clarified dozens of times that abortion is not a negotiable issue set against other issues. They have clarified that the Faithful Citizenship document does not say (although many tried to present it this way) that abortion is one issue amid many and a vote that eliminates other evils can justify a vote for abortion; or for that matter any other intrinsic evil such as torture. Do not misrepresent the Faithful Citizenship document on the issue of abortion. That will be dealt with immediately since the Bishops have specifically spoken against such misrepresentation.

    That does not mean that people can generalize that all votes for a Democrat or Republican are immoral. There are both theological and political discussions that can occur civilly on that topic. The very nature of that discussion is on the line of theological and political. Threads like that will be addressed on if they are skewing more theological or political when determining if they get moved.
     
  2. benedictaoo

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    you have some movin' to do then... you can just ax my thread because I said what I wanted. and that is, for those who it was keeping up at night, who needed to know my thoughts and opinions, who was soliciting them... I said its no one's beeswax who I vote for and its my right as an American to vote for who ever I want.
     
  3. Davidnic

    Davidnic Well-Known Member Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Yeah the main area is getting a bit filled with political stuff. That's why the thread was made. I will move some threads in the next day or so.
     
  4. Gwendolyn

    Gwendolyn back in black

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    Thank God.
     
  5. Cosmic Charlie

    Cosmic Charlie The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

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    You guys can do whatever you want but I would point out that unions, universal access to healthcare and the death penalty ( of the top of my head) are all central moral issues to the Church as well.
     
  6. Cosmic Charlie

    Cosmic Charlie The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated

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    Although to be perfectly frank if this mean I don't have to read any more thread on Reagan I'm pretty happy.
     
  7. Tigg

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    Blowing many :kiss:es to Davidnic, Thank you.
     
  8. Fran75

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    Thanks David, I am sure this will help to improve the tone of the general forum.
     
  9. Davidnic

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    And when discussed as theology they are all allowed in the main forum. The reason abortion was singled out was when the political forum was suggested some tried to argue it was only a political issue. Also it has been singled out by the Bishops as the paramount issue of human dignity. So it does deserve special consideration since so many Magisterial instructions are issued in relation to it.

    Really what it comes down to is when the thread is about how the Church teaches on an issue it is main forum. When it is a political thing about how to vote (unless it is a Magisterial instruction) it is a political subforum thread. When it is a look at me I am more Catholic than you issue...it is just stupid and likely is not worth reading, generally goading and flaming...but that is a personal choice for each of you to feed that or let the thread die unless it breaks a rule. But when it is all about who to vote for it will likely go to the subforum. That is the short form on how the decision will be made.
     
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  10. benedictaoo

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    There's a person posting some really bizarre ones at a rate you more then likely can't keep up with...
     
  11. benedictaoo

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    He predicted the coming of the Communist, Obama- didn't you hear?
     
  12. Foundthelight

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    Thanks!
     
  13. Antigone

    Antigone The Wrath of Whatever

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    Someone hasn't gotten the message. I'm not saying who but their username sounds rather like Fruitsmurfs.

    And so, this person shall henceforth be known as Fruitsmurf.
     
  14. benedictaoo

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    lol!
     
  15. sylverpiano

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    Do you mean that we no longer have to be told it is a sin not to be a Republican in the main forum??

    How refreshing!
     
  16. Davidnic

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    Depending how it is said it is not going to be allowed even in the main forum. If it is a flame. Same for the reverse.
     
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  18. Davidnic

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    Part of what I do is read them all. And yeah it is out of hand in places. All I can say is when stuff is reported it is dealt with. And this is part of why I am making an announcement about threads and tone now.
     
  19. Davidnic

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    Basically saying that to not vote Republican is a sin is a flame. It is goading. It is not what the Bishops teach. To say the opposite (and some have) is also a flame. If someone wants to argue the moral difficulties of a vote based on what a politician or party believes, that is one thing. These generalizing flame bombs of haphazard theology where people base Catholicism on party affiliation are not allowed. There are ways to discuss these issues that do not involve doing it.
     
  20. benedictaoo

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    Baby has said a few times that i said voting republican is a sin... I never said that, ever. isn't that a flame? posting that I said that when I didn't? and a thread exclusively asking me who I'm voting for? That has to be a flame, a bait, a goat- something.
     
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