Alex Jones on Covid

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While In no way do I support or condone anything in the following video, I would like to analyze specific sections of it, to seperate fact from fiction, particularly the part about how mRNA vaccines were previously, until covid, rejected by scientists, and considered dangerous.

Again, we are not attempting to advocate the opinions here, this is merely an opportunity to discuss the truth about claims mentioned in the video.

 

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I didn't watch the video, but am aware of Jones opinion on the "vaccine". I put that in quotes because I think even Fauci admitted in an interview recently that it doesn't convey immunity and that it's purpose is to make you not get so sick when exposed to covid in the wild. If that's true, then technically Jones is right - it's a gene therapy and not a vaccine.
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.
Bill Gates isn't doctor either he is the computer guy yet talking about vacciness and promoting them right?
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.

Yes, but about mRNA vaccines having previously been advised against by mainstream scientists prior to COVID... Is that true or false?

...This is our chance to shoot these wild claims out of the water. Lets begin shooting. The targets are right in front of us, like fish in a barrel.

We can put these lies out of their misery right now with facts.
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.

Men and women who didn’t drop out of college, who have medical/science experience, who have experience with viral diseases...they don’t all agree on CoV-2 matters (masks, immunity, vaccines, anti-viral prophylaxis, etc.).

Jones, as you or I, can look over available research and make an assessment. He twangs it all up for his show, that’s for sure!
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.

Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates dropped out of college as well...that, in itself, doesn't mean a whole lot.

Or does it? They seemed to be smart enough to make it quite well without college.
 
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Yes, but about mRNA vaccines having previously been advised against by mainstream scientists prior to COVID... Is that true or false?
I'm sure you could find examples. I think I expressed skepticism right here on CF a year ago. Why is this important?
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...This is our chance to shoot these wild claims out of the water. Lets begin shooting. The targets are right in front of us, like fish in a barrel.
To stretch your metaphors even further, it looks like these claims are found in many ponds other than our particular one here. Which fish here are making claims?
 
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I'm sure you could find examples. I think I expressed skepticism right here on CF a year ago. Why is this important?

I'm not sure how important it is, but when science makes a 180° turn, it tends to draw some attention... At least I find it interesting, anyway. :)

To stretch your metaphors even further, it looks like these claims are found in many ponds other than our particular one here. Which fish here are making claims?

It's more the claims that are the fish, than anyone in particular. I mean, in the United States, people are talking about it, and clearing things up it seems would bring about a feeling of reassurance in regards to vaccinating.
 
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I'm not sure how important it is, but when science makes a 180° turn, it tends to draw some attention... At least I find it interesting, anyway. :)
One retired scientist expressing skepticism isn't "science makes a 180° turn." The technique had some serious drawbacks >10 years ago. After many years of hard efforts, several groups of scientists successfully worked out all the bugs. I suspect I wouldn't find Alex Jones' opinions on the matter at all interesting. If you have some very specific points you'd like to discuss, this particular sub-forum doesn't seem to be for debate, so please try elsewhere.
 
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One retired scientist expressing skepticism isn't "science makes a 180° turn." The technique had some serious drawbacks >10 years ago. After many years of hard efforts, several groups of scientists successfully worked out all the bugs. I suspect I wouldn't find Alex Jones' opinions on the matter at all interesting. If you have some very specific points you'd like to discuss, this particular sub-forum doesn't seem to be for debate, so please try elsewhere.

I'm asking questions, and looking for facts -not debate.

...I haven't debated at all here. I have no intention on doing so.
 
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I think we should listen to all the actors, musicians, athletes and other famous people...they seem to have the microphone and lots of followers.. NOT..

Also, there are a lot of articles out there that contradict each other.... all written by experts in the field.

Even Fauci first stated that a mask isn't much help.. Then.. we have to wait for the vaccines.. Now..we still have to have the mask ( previously useless ) to protect us even though we have the vaccines (previously the answer to the pandemic )

Meanwhile.. they are all hush hush about Ivermectin which is working fantastic in other countries.. it's cheap.. it's been around for 5 years and is well studied.. just not formally tested for COVID-19...but.. it is now an over the counter drug in Bulgaria or some country near there... for treatment of COVID-19

Personally.. I believe that big Pharma would not recommend an aspirin for COVID-19... even if it worked... if they could state that it wasn't tested as a treatment for COVID-19.

Money is driving this.

Whatever the truth.. you'll have a hard time finding it for the next 5 years or so.
 
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Meanwhile.. they are all hush hush about Ivermectin which is working fantastic in other countries.. it's cheap.. it's been around for 5 years and is well studied.. just not formally tested for COVID-19...but.. it is now an over the counter drug in Bulgaria or some country near there... for treatment of COVID-19

More egregious than this is the fact that our DOD spent $200+ million inventing Favipiravir (in conjunction with MediVector, Inc) and it’s not available here. Fujifilm in Japan patented it as Avigan and they are using it along with other countries.

This was developed as a broad spectrum anti viral (native and bio weapon) for combat troops. Apparently they used to believe there was a valid use for such. As you say, money-money-money changed many otherwise "smart" people’s minds.
 
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Alex Jones dropped out of college. Alex Jones isn't in the field of vaccine's. He has no medical or science experience. No experience with viral diseases or anything to do with science. Nobody should be taken advice about COVID-19 or anything from him. If you look at his bio. You can tell he's wrong in the head.
College isn't a place for smart people. I think I missed your point.
 
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Alex Jones is a truther gatekeeper, just Google "Alex Jones shill" or "Alex Jones gatekeeper" to find out folks who have made content exposing Jones on different subjects. For example, he claims to give legitimate criticism to Israel, yet for years used to hang up on callers who start mention of Israel critically, or ask Jones why he never includes them in his talks about people who rule the world behind the scenes, aka, a huge part of the faceless "globalists" that he is at war against. Israel and the jesuits are the majority of the globalists. The international bankers who run the world have a vested interest in calling themselves jews, as revelation 2:9 & 3:9 point out.
 
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