Montalban said:
Moslems believe that their god al-lah gave promises to the people of Israel, in covenant. One of these was to Abraham; father of many nations; through his sons; Isaac and Ishmael. Another promise was given to Isaac, that the Messiah would be sent to his people.
Now al-lah as promised in the Bible continued to give prophets to the peoples of Isaac (Now we see that after Isaac, there is a number of prophets coming to the Jews until Jesus, being the last. Suddenly, al-lah, if we are to believe the Moslems gets fed up with the Jews and moves his mantle of truth to the Arabs - even though there's no promise with them! The only 'covenant' I'm aware of is the one mentioned in the Bible, and it's not with Ishmael. The fact that they believe al-lah continued to send prophets to the Jews shows that, despite their attempts to re-work Ishmael's legitimacy, recognise that the convent was NOT with him, but with Isaac.
Where is the book of Ishmael that this prophet took with him when he founded the Arab tribes? Surely, the Jews too, would be interested to know what words of God were revealed to the Arabs.
Why did al-lah break his promise?
Actually you could be asked the same question why Did GOD in the Bible change his covenant after Thirteen years.In Genesis 15:13-18
God is promising abraham his seed and the covenant.
genesis 15:
13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
17 ¶ And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. {a burning
: Heb. a lamp of fire}
18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Why then does GOd have to what 13 years after Ismael was born then Change his mind and give the covenant to isaac.
Why all this time GOD did not inform Abraham that this is not the son the convenat is promised to wait another 13years I will give the rightful heir. so can we say he decievd Abraham into Thinking that was his only son, that was his seed the line of prophets promised to him.
Genesis 17:20
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
Was that a lie from the GOD of the Bible? did he deceive Abraham?
18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
GOD promised twelves princes from the line of Ismael have you forgotten that or do you deliberately disregard it.
Read this:
3. Ishmael
Let us continue with the story of Abraham. After he left Haran he dwelt in Canaan after having also visited Egypt. More than twenty years after he had left Haran, he was still without child and wondering how the Lord's promise would be fulfilled that he would father many nations, because he was then in his eighties. The Lord appeared to him again, assured him his descendants would be numberless as the stars, and covenanted to give him all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates (Gen. 15:4-18). That is a lot of real estate, centered on the Arabian Peninsula.
Sarah remained barren. Finally, she gave her handmaid Hagar to Abraham, which led to the birth of his first son, Ishmael, when Abraham was 86 years old (Gen. 16:16).
Abraham loved Ishmael and was delighted that finally the covenant could be fulfilled to have numberless descendants.
Searching for a likely date for Ishmael's birth leads to an excellent candidate which was a holy day on four sacred calendars. The day Thu 6 Sep 1966 BC was 1 Tishri (Trumpets, Hebrew), 1 Serpent (Sacred Round), 1 Birth (Venus) and 1 Resurrection (Mercury). Only about once in 58 years does 1 Birth (Venus) coincide with one of the 10 principal Hebrew holy days, and this date has the added bonus of being 1 Resurrection on Mercury. While it is very encouraging that there is such a perfect birth date for Ishmael almost exactly 86 years after the proposed birth date for Abraham, still we must be cautious before declaring victory. What about Isaac? If there is not an equally good date for Isaac, then that would be problem because the Lord tends to treat children equally (D&C 38:26).
4. Isaac
Abraham, at age 99 and having only one child Ishmael, who was then 13 years old, must have been content that he had secured the covenant he had sought with the Lord (Abr. 1:2).
He probably wasn't expecting much else to happen. Then the Lord surprised him in his old age with an extremely eventful week.
First, the Lord made a new covenant with Abraham. The Lord changed his name from Abram to Abraham, meaning "father of a multitude" because he would be the father of many nations. The Lord also changed his wife Sarai's name to be Sarah, meaning "Princess" and declared that she would have a son, and that through him many nations and kings would come. The token of this covenant would be circumcision (Gen. 17:1-16).
Abraham feared that something might be taken from his beloved son Ishmael, but the Lord assured him that Ishmael would still become a great nation as promised. That has certainly been fulfilled, because to this day the Arab nations are located on and around the Arabian Peninsula, comprising many of the descendants of Ishmael. Then the Lord added what to me as a researcher in calendars is a unique and very strange statement. The Lord then prophesied that Isaac would be born "at this set time in the next year" (Gen. 17:21). We'll come back to that, but first, let's see what else happened that week.
http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2003/abraham.html#2
You say you don't believe Adam was a prophet then I don't think you have read your own scriptures then.In the nag hammadi library in The apocalpyse of Adam he foretells alot of things to Seth.If he was not a prophet where would he know all this from.
The Nag Hammadi Library
The Apocalypse of Adam
The revelation which Adam taught his son Seth in the seven hundreth year, saying:
.........Now then, my son Seth, I will reveal to you the things which those men whom I saw before me at first revealed to me:
Then they will become as the cloud of the great light. Those men will come who have been cast forth from the knowledge of the great aeons and the angels. They will stand before Noah and the aeons. And God will say to Noah, "Why have you departed from what I told you? You have created another generation so that you might scorn my power." Then Noah will say, "I shall testify before your might that the generation of these men did not come from me nor from my sons
Then Noah will divide the whole earth among his sons, Ham and Japheth and Shem. He will say to them, "My sons, listen to my words. Behold, I have divided the earth among you. But serve him in fear and slavery all the days of your life. Let not your seed depart from the face of God the Almighty. [...] I and your [...] son of Noah, "My seed will be pleasing before you and before your power. Seal it by your strong hand, with fear and commandment, so that the whole seed which came forth from me may not be inclined away from you and God the Almighty, but it will serve in humility and fear of its knowledge."
Then others from the seed of Ham and Japheth will come, four hundred thousand men, and enter into another land and sojourn with those men who came forth from the great eternal knowledge. For the shadow of their power will protect those who have sojourned with them from every evil thing and every unclean desire. Then the seed of Ham and Japheth will form twelve kingdoms, and their seed also will enter into the kingdom of another people.
Is all this not foretelling if that is what a prophet has to do in chrsitianity to earn his title as a prophet is this not prophecy. he tells seth he will reveal to him the Future is that not a prophet.
By the way where is the Book of Isaac and what does he prophecy.
Answers on a postcard.
CYA
