age of the earth and lightyears

[CabVet]

As dad said: Embedded Age is closer than Imagined Age.

I assume he means science comes up with an imagined age.

And my question is, why do you say the age of the earth is 4.57 billion years if you think that is an imagined age?

 

[CabVet]

First of all, I believe God gave me that definition.

Secondly, history has nothing to do with Embedded Age; so it doesn't matter if I deny it or not.

There is no history to deny.

When you say the age of the earth is 4.57 billion years, history has everything to do with embedded age. That number was calculated based on a combination of independent historical evidence.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

First of all, I believe God gave me that definition.

Secondly, history has nothing to do with Embedded Age; so it doesn't matter if I deny it or not.

There is no history to deny.

Except for the record of historical events.

 

[AV1611VET]

When you say the age of the earth is 4.57 billion years, history has everything to do with embedded age.

No, it does not.

History and embedded age are two different things.

Just like evolution and abiogenesis.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

No, it does not.

History and embedded age are two different things.

Just like evolution and abiogenesis.

But the record of historical events is how that age is determined.

 

[AV1611VET]

Except for the record of historical events.

Show me these historical events, and tell me what Adam was doing at the time.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Show me these historical events, and tell me what Adam was doing at the time.

Why? You said you'd just ignore then anyway.

 

[AV1611VET]

But the record of historical events is how that age is determined.

God determined the amount of age.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why? You said you'd just ignore then anyway.

That's right, because you can't show me these events in Adam's time.

Which means your deep time and phantom history has no room for Adam.

It's nothing more than a Satanic attack on Genesis 1.

 

[CabVet]

No, it does not.

History and embedded age are two different things.

Just like evolution and abiogenesis.

Right, please explain the difference then. More precisely, please explain why you use 4.57 billion as an age.

 

[CabVet]

That's right, because you can't show me these events in Adam's time.

Which means your deep time and phantom history has no room for Adam.

It's nothing more than a Satanic attack on Genesis 1.

Just like embedded age, a different state past, and Adam speaking English. You can't show me any of those in Adam's time.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

That's right, because you can't show me these events in Adam's time.

Which means your deep time and phantom history has no room for Adam.

It's nothing more than a Satanic attack on Genesis 1.

Then Satan must have put all of the evidence there?

 

[Split Rock]

That's right, because you can't show me these events in Adam's time.

Which means your deep time and phantom history has no room for Adam.

It's nothing more than a Satanic attack on Genesis 1.

Satan has nothing to do with it. Did he change the isotope ratios? Did he plant fake impact craters? Did he weather down the Appalacian mountains?

 

[Split Rock]

Embedded age is closer than invented age.

4.5 (actually 4.54 ± 0.05) billion years is not an invented age. It is a measured age. No one decided that 4.54 billion years was a nice number to give to earth's age.

 

[AV1611VET]

Satan has nothing to do with it. Did he change the isotope ratios? Did he plant fake impact craters? Did he weather down the Appalacian mountains?

In Genesis 1, "Satan" didn't exist as yet.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Those {morning stars/sons of God} included Lucifer, who shouted for joy at the creation of the earth.

 

[CabVet]

4.5 (actually 4.54 ± 0.05) billion years is not an invented age. It is a measured age. No one decided that 4.54 billion years was a nice number to give to earth's age.

AV did as he accepts the number but not the methods to measure it.

 

[Split Rock]

Satan has nothing to do with it. Did he change the isotope ratios? Did he plant fake impact craters? Did he weather down the Appalacian mountains?

In Genesis 1, "Satan" didn't exist as yet..

You are the one that posted this:

It's nothing more than a Satanic attack on Genesis 1.

Please explain how modern geological methodology is a "Satanic" attack on GEN1.

 

[dad]

4.5 (actually 4.54 ± 0.05) billion years is not an invented age. It is a measured age.

No. It is measured SOLELY by and with the present state! As I said, manufactured..made up..invented.

No one decided that 4.54 billion years was a nice number to give to earth's age.

Satan decided. I reject it.

 

[dad]

You have already been shown how it is checked, and you ignore it.

You showed nothing, and you ignore it. You have been shown how your claims are religion. When you are ready to face up to the facts, let us know. Otherwise, your continuous lies about science are just that. Lies.

 

[Strathos]

You can not go by decay rate. When you speed up time you would also speed up the decay rate.

If the decay rate was sped up to fit billions of years of radioactive decay into only a few thousand, the surface of the earth would be as hot as the sun or hotter.

Paul mentions four dimensions ... please show me how you have checked beyond the third.

The 4th dimension is time.

God determined the amount of age.

James Ussher is not God.