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age of the earth and lightyears

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by lighting the day, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. Loudmouth

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    Then you are YEC.
     
  2. Loudmouth

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    Science is not trying to counter the Bible. Science is interested in learning about the reality around us.

    The decay that science talks about is the decay that happens in reality.
     
  3. dad

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    Your reality cannot be checked then, and opposes history. It is too small a reality. Do not try to limit the all men to that. Some of us do not want to live in a box.
     
  4. AV1611VET

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    QV please:
    Notice two things: no science and no scars; so I don't know where you're coming from when you say: 'The science behind embedded age is flawed...'
     
  5. AV1611VET

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    :thumbsup: and :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  6. dad

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    Embedded age is closer than invented age.
     
  7. AV1611VET

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    Indeed! :)
     
  8. Loudmouth

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    You have already been shown how it is checked, and you ignore it. When you are ready to face up to the facts, let us know. Otherwise, your continuous lies about science are just that. Lies.
     
  9. AV1611VET

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    Paul mentions four dimensions ... please show me how you have checked beyond the third.
     
  10. Loudmouth

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    The map is not the territory.
     
  11. CabVet

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    Notice one thing: you definition of maturity includes everything we use for scientific dating (you admit an "age" of 4.57 billion years for the earth, whatever that means). The problem is that scientific dating does not determine maturity, it determines history.
     
  12. CabVet

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    Indeed what? You said many times the earth is 4.57 billion years old.
     
  13. AV1611VET

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    And that's why I stipulated "without history."

    Had I said: Embedded Age = Embedded Maturity, then you guys would be claiming Last Thursdayism.
     
  14. AV1611VET

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    As dad said: Embedded Age is closer than Imagined Age.

    I assume he means science comes up with an imagined age.
     
  15. Loudmouth

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    Radiohaloes do indicate millions of years of history just as fossils do.
     
  16. AV1611VET

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    So does the sun, doesn't it?

    Or did the sun just appear overnight?
     
  17. Cheeky Monkey

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    And what to do with the evidence of historical events? Ignore them?
     
  18. AV1611VET

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    Just what I do with the evidence for a local flood [only], or evidence that the NT Gospels were written hundreds of years after the death of Jesus, or any other evidence that concludes that what the Bible says is not what really happened -- I ignore it.
     
  19. Cheeky Monkey

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    Thanks. So what's the point of making up something as contradictory as "maturity without history". Why not just say "I deny most history"
     
  20. AV1611VET

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    First of all, I believe God gave me that definition.

    Secondly, history has nothing to do with Embedded Age; so it doesn't matter if I deny it or not.

    There is no history to deny.
     
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