coolhandluke said:
So...does anyone have any real biblical backing? All I seem to be getting so far is emotional responses. Please refrain from making comments unless you have some biblical evidence to support your opinion. Comments claiming it's sick to think otherwise, is not helping anyone to come to a better understanding, and I would disagree with you there, anyway. I'm not trying to be rude, but this is not what I'm looking for. I didn't want a debate, just some passages that show the biblical basis for the age of accountability. Thanks.
-katie
There is one place that the Bible talks about an age of accountability, it is in reference to the nation of Israel when they were in the wilderness.
Numbers 14:28-33 NET.
(28) Say to them, 'As I live, says the LORD, I will surely do to you just what you have spoken in my hearing.
(29) Your dead bodies will fall in this wilderness all those of you who were numbered, according to your full number, from twenty years old and upward, who have murmured against me.
(30) You will by no means enter into the land where I swore to settle you. The only exceptions are Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.
(31) But I will bring in your little ones, whom you said would become victims of war, and they will enjoy the land that you have despised.
(32) But as for you, your dead bodies will fall in this wilderness,
(33) and your children will wander in the wilderness forty years and suffer for your unfaithfulness, until your dead bodies lie finished in the wilderness.
Also referred to in this passage.
Deuteronomy 1:38-39 NET.
(38) However, Joshua son of Nun, your assistant, will go. Encourage him, because he will enable Israel to inherit the land.
(39) Also, your infants, who you thought would die on the way, and your children, who as yet do not know good from bad, will go there; I will give them the land and they will possess it.
That as far as I know is the only place an exact age of accountability is taught in the Bible. We know exactly what age it was, 20. The Anabaptists follow that concept pretty closely with their customs of baptism and becoming an adult and a member of the church at about that age.
There are those who believe the Bible teaches the salvation of children of believers and not of unbelievers. That is largely based on this passage.
1 Corinthians 7:14 NET.
(14) For the unbelieving husband is sanctified because of the wife, and the unbelieving wife because of her husband. Otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.
I can sure see the interpretation and it could be correct. Notice the children would be unclean but the believing spouse makes them holy. The conjecture that that means they will be saved is certainly a possible interpretation, and if that isn't the proper interpretation we are left with the question what difference is there? But is certainly isn't something strongly and clearly taught.
Then we run into the "normal" age of accountability doctrine.
It's basis is that it is impossible for a small child or an infant to believe; therefore, it would be unjust for God to condemn such a person.
Well first of all, let me agree that God is not unjust, I hope we don't need to go through a whole study on that, it is actually the area where everyone seems to agree.
Since they start with the idea that someone so young can't believe, a doctrine needed to be manufactured to fit in with a theology that salvation depends on the person being capable of making a decision to accept Christ. They need the doctrine to make things kind of work because I think everyone agrees that God doesn't condemn all infants. The bible teaches that those who believe will be saved but the age of accountability doctrine teaches those who don't believe because they can't will be saved. That just seems very contrary to scripture to me, even if it's conclusion, that all infants are saved, might be correct.
First of all, I can't find the idea anywhere in scripture that God makes someone with a mind that is unable to receive him. I can't find any place that says infants or mentally retarded people cannot have faith in God. What we do see is that infants can indeed believe.
For instance, we have John the Baptist who believed before he was even born. He had already received the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:15 NET.
(15) for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He must never drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even before his birth.
Luke 1:43-44 NET.
(43) And who am I that the mother of my Lord should come and visit me?
(44) For the instant the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.
Clearly John recognized Jesus, that is believed in God, before his birth.
We also have the very words of our Lord.
Matthew 18:1-6 NET.
(1) At that time the disciples came to Jesus saying, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?"
(2) He called a child, had him stand among them,
(3) and said, "I tell you the truth, unless you turn around and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven!
(4) Whoever then humbles himself like this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(5) And whoever welcomes a child like this in my name welcomes me.
(6) "But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a huge millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the open sea.
There are a couple of things important to the issue in that passage. First of all Jesus says that little ones believe in him, unlike those who teach that little ones cannot believe. And we can argue a little about the age of the child but the word translated child is used in another place where we know an exact age of the child.
Luke 1:59 NET.
(59) On the eighth day they came to circumcise the child, and they wanted to name him Zechariah after his father.
You see the same term used for an eight day old. So we see that it is of children of age much lower than many teach can and do believe in God.
Now some may object saying that since the children haven't heard the message and can't comphrehend it that is impossible. Well, God wrote the Bible for us who can and do comphrehend it. I don't see that he necessarily wrote it directly for infants. He clearly has other ways of revealing himself when he so chooses. We do know this:
Luke 12:48 NET.
(48) But the one who did not know his master's will and did things worthy of punishment will receive a light beating. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required, and from the one who has been entrusted with much, even more will be asked.
Now if we go back and go on a little further in Matthew, the strongest verse I know of for all infants being saved occurs.
Matthew 18:12-14 NET.
(12) What do you think? If someone owns a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go look for the one that went astray?
(13) And if he finds it, I tell you the truth, he will rejoice more over it than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray.
(14) In the same way, your Father in heaven is not willing that one of these little ones be lost.
Does it absolutely mean all infants are saved? I don't know, we know that there are passages in the Bible that says Jesus died for the sins of the world and that it is God's will that everyone be saved, yet we don't generally interpret that as universal salvation for all so I'm not so sure that we should just accept this as teaching all infants are saved.
So, in conclusion, I see there a few positions that can be supported from scripture.
First, God will do what is right. That's the real foundational truth, and I don't see that as open to debate.
Secondly, that infants can be and are saved. Again this is pretty universally agreed upon.
It is possible to support and believe that children of believers are saved and children of unbelievers are not. This fits pretty well within covenantal teachings. Which goes beyond the space and time I want to devote. I would refer you to Calvin's position on infant baptism which lays it out pretty clearly in his "Institutes" which you cand find and read online.
It is also possible to support universal salvation for children. It is based on that it is God's will that none be lost, but is open on debate whether that is God's absolute will or if it is referring to his will in a lesser degree.
But that neither position is strongly taught.
The ideas that children cannot believe and that those who don't believe or can't believe are saved, both seem to me to be in direct conflict with scripture.
In the end I believe that those children who believe are saved and those who don't aren't. I don't think God is limited to revealing himself to an infant in the same way he normally reveals himself to those of us who are older.
We tend to think pretty highly of ourselves as adults, but God doesn't tell us that children have to become like adults in order to be saved, he tells us that adults need to become like children, as we already saw in Matthew.
Hope that helps.
Marv