Advocating for the Powerless...

[Aabbie James]

Abortions worldwide this year: see worldometers.info/abortions

“You shall not murder.” —Exodus 20:13

 

[Leaf473]

Abortions worldwide this year: see worldometers.info/abortions

“You shall not murder.” —Exodus 20:13

This passage came to mind
Jeremiah 2:34
Also the blood of the souls of the innocent poor is found on your clothes. You didn’t find them breaking in, but it is because of all these things.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

22%...Come quickly Lord Jesus

 

[RaymondG]

Dont forget about the almost 20% of spontaneous abortions...... who do we blame for those "murders"?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

It's to be expected since this age of the church mimics the divided kingdom before captivity - human sacrifice was common.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

 

[tturt]

Those that support abortion, ignore Scripture already posted and -

Yahweh determines the time and place of our births:
-“And he made from one man every race of men to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted epochs and the fixed boundaries of the places where they would live;” (Acts 17:26)

He formed us:
-“For You formed my innermost parts; You knit me [together] in my mother’s womb” Psa 139:13
-“Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?” Mal 2;10

He gives us life each day:
-“This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.” (Psa 118:24)
-“The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.” Job 33:4
"I will put ligaments on you, place muscles on you, and cover you with skin. I will put breath in you, and you will live. Then you will know that I am Yahweh." Eze 37:6

He has a plan for each one:
-“For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.” Jer 29:11
-“who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time eternal,” II Tim 1

 

[spiritfilledjm]

Dont forget about the almost 20% of spontaneous abortions...... who do we blame for those "murders"?

Unfortunately, it looks like you didn't actually read the article clearly enough to see that miscarriages are specifically left out of the figure.

 

[RaymondG]

Unfortunately, it looks like you didn't actually read the article clearly enough to see that miscarriages are specifically left out of the figure.

Isnt that convenient, that we leave out the most common abortion.....and call the least common murder?

This is not about saving the unborn, this is about changing definitions and beliefs to subconsciously sway opinions to ones own. And we all fall for it every time.

You want to save the unborn? Start adopting children....start educating young woman about the ease of the adoption process and alternatives to abortion.

If you only seek to promote your own agenda and make yourself seem holier than those that do not agree with you......start redefining the word abortion instead.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

Isnt that convenient, that we leave out the most common abortion.....and call the least common murder?

This is not about saving the unborn, this is about changing definitions and beliefs to subconsciously sway opinions to ones own. And we all fall for it every time.

You want to save the unborn? Start adopting children....start educating young woman about the ease of the adoption process and alternatives to abortion.

If you only seek to promote your own agenda and make yourself seem holier than those that do not agree with you......start redefining the word abortion instead.

...you're calling miscarriage an abortion. Miscarriage is vastly different from abortion because an abortion is a willful act of the parent whereas a miscarrariage is something that naturally happens for one reason or another that has nothing to do with anyone. Calling a miscarriage a "spontaneous abortion" is an attempt by those who are pro-murder to normalize abortion.

 

[RaymondG]

...you're calling miscarriage an abortion. Miscarriage is vastly different from abortion because an abortion is a willful act of the parent whereas a miscarrariage is something that naturally happens for one reason or another that has nothing to do with anyone. Calling a miscarriage a "spontaneous abortion" is an attempt by those who are pro-murder to normalize abortion.

Ok I understand.....you just havent done any research. Spontaneous abortion is a medical term for miscarriage.......I could call it a murder by God, if I wanted to be like you, having a sole purpose of swaying your opinion to that of my own. But if I wanted to help prevent miscarriages, I would, instead encourage early pregnancy detection and the taking of vitamins etc.... If I only care about my pride and my opinions being agreed with, I would simply say, like you, God is murdering babies and it's a shame.

You see, it is you who are walking over the unborn by promoting your beliefs instead of ways to save them. Sad thing is, I do not believe you will understand this... You will continue to promote your beliefs, call people murderers who dont agree with you, watch the unborn die, and feel good about yourself, because it is not you aborting them.

 

[spiritfilledjm]

Ok I understand.....you just havent done any research. Spontaneous abortion is a medical term for miscarriage.......I could call it a murder by God, if I wanted to be like you, having a sole purpose of swaying your opinion to that of my own. But if I wanted to help prevent miscarriages, I would, instead encourage early pregnancy detection and the taking of vitamins etc.... If I only care about my pride and my opinions being agreed with, I would simply say, like you, God is murdering babies and it's a shame.

You see, it is you who are walking over the unborn by promoting your beliefs instead of ways to save them. Sad thing is, I do not believe you will understand this... You will continue to promote your beliefs, call people murderers who dont agree with you, watch the unborn die, and feel good about yourself, because it is not you aborting them.

You assume much for someone who knows absolutely nothing about me.

 

[RaymondG]

You assume much for someone who knows absolutely nothing about me.

You are known by your words......and by the absence of words.

....and by your ratings on others posts....it would seem.

 

[Leaf473]

Dont forget about the almost 20% of spontaneous abortions...... who do we blame for those "murders"?

In a sense, God is responsible for everything, since he is
"upholding all things by His powerful word".

I'll be happy to hash that out more with you if you wish. If so, I suggest we move to a thread designed for discussion and debate.

Peace be with you!

 

[RaymondG]

In a sense, God is responsible for everything, since he is
"upholding all things by His powerful word".

I'll be happy to hash that out more with you if you wish. If so, I suggest we move to a thread designed for discussion and debate.

Peace be with you!

I believe God is responsible for everything as well. Never understood why we Christians behave as if humans are in control of Life and Death. We diminish the power of God this way.

 

[RaymondG]

We call on God in a hurry to come quickly and destroy those who are doing what we believe is evil..... Yet we wont think to Ask God to change the minds and hearts of those who would abort. No God is not powerful enough to do that.....he can only destroy and send to hellfire.

 

[Leaf473]

I believe God is responsible for everything as well. Never understood why we Christians behave as if humans are in control of Life and Death. We diminish the power of God this way.

I don't think I agree with everything you're saying there. But again, we can talk about that in a different place, if you wish.

 

[RaymondG]

I don't think I agree with everything you're saying there. But again, we can talk about that in a different place, if you wish.

I agree, that we probably would not agree on many religious and spiritual topics/idea. I will gladly join in any conversation that I feel could be edifying.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Miscarriage, which generally occurs in the first weeks or months of pregnancy, indicates that something was terribly wrong with the fetus. God also likely designed this mechanism, which would cause the least danger and upset to the woman, and possibly preventing later stillbirth of a fully developed fetus, which is horrific for everyone.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I was once an embryo which was not killed in the womb. Consequently I have had a long and productive life. Over 53,000,000 children have been killed in the womb and were not given any chance to have the same life I had. At the Judgment, the women who decided to have their unborn child killed, the doctors and nurses who did the killing, and those in the medical profession who did not speak out against the killings, will have to face those 53,000,000 children and have to answer to why they were not given the chance to have a life. Then those killers of children will have an eternity in Hell to reflect on what they have done, and they will be haunted every second of every day for ever and ever. That would be hell for anyone, even without the darkness and fire.

But if any of them acknowledge their sin and put their trust in Jesus Christ who died to take the penalty for their sin on the Cross, God will totally forgive them of their involvement in the killing of unborn children and they will go to heaven and not to hell.