admitting the truth behind SOME co-vid deaths

[wing2000]

The collapse of capitalism...

The removal of christianity.

Can the state remove Christ from your soul?

 

[-57]

Do you not notice the sudden spike in deaths around April of this year?

Nobody is denying the virus...why do you insist on pushing the issue?

The problem is in how they are inflating the numbers....40% of the spike is due to socialist governors placing infected people into nursing homes.

You seem proud of the spike.

 

[wing2000]

Nobody is denying the virus...why do you insist on pushing the issue?

The problem is in how they are inflating the numbers....40% of the spike is due to socialist governors placing infected people into nursing homes.

You seem proud of the spike.

...you know for a fact that none of those 40% were caused by nursing home staff transmitting the virus? Any other stats you would like to pull out of thin air?

 

[-57]

Can the state remove Christ from your soul?

Really? You simply don't get it.

How many weeks were you not allowed to go to church?
How many christian statues were defaced?
How many church's were defaced?

...this is just the beginning. Go ahead, vote for the Godless socialist Democratic Party.

 

[wing2000]

Really? You simply don't get it.

How many weeks were you not allowed to go to church?
How many christian statues were defaced?
How many church's were defaced?

...this is just the beginning. Go ahead, vote for the Godless socialist Democratic Party.

Oh I get it. His Kingdom is not of this world. Who do you serve? A state with Christian symbols?

 

[-57]

...you know for a fact that none of those 40% were caused by nursing home staff transmitting the virus? Any other stats you would like to pull out of thin air?

I said infected people were placed into nursing homes...I would imagine some of the staff became infected then spread it. Even Cuomo admits it. Here
s Cuomo trying to spin it.

 

[-57]

Oh I get it. His Kingdom is not of this world. Who do you serve? A state with Christian symbols?

I'm not quite sure what that is supposed to mean

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Biden is a socialist...

Is that all you guys have to run on? Biden has had like 40 years in government. How long has he been a socialist and why did it never occur to anyone before this year?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

...this is just the beginning. Go ahead, vote for the Godless socialist Democratic Party.

Yep. That’s all you got.

Trump has no successes to run on after 4 years so you have to hope socialism! is scary enough to get people to re-elect a clown who has repeatedly shown himself to be a danger to the country.

 

[-57]

Is that all you guys have to run on? Biden has had like 40 years in government. How long has he been a socialist and why did it never occur to anyone before this year?

No, no, no....you don't get it. Biden is not running. The puppet string manipulators are running.

Do you not see that?

 

[-57]

Yep. That’s all you got.

Trump has no successes to run on after 4 years so you have to hope socialism! is scary enough to get people to re-elect a clown who has repeatedly shown himself to be a danger to the country.

If that's what you think..then vote for the marxist supporters.

 

[Broken Fence]

IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified

This person from my understanding a health director is basically ADMITTING that they count co-vid deaths as people who are positive at the time of death ( even if they would have died any way or died of something completely unrated. They particularly mention people on Hospice by defination those people are DYING anyway. Now, granted Hospice is not what it once was you can live on hospice for months or even in some rare cases a year or more, but to actually stay on hospice you must have a live expectency of six months or less if you beat that good on you, but you cannot just stay on hospice with a condition that you are expected to still live for years ( even if it is a condition that at some point will prove deadly if nothing else does. I would also think and this is not stated in the video that they would count if someone died in something CLEARLY unrated ( say a car accident if they tested the person and it came back positive. I have heard of at least one case where they ACUALLY tried that one.

What do you think, after all this person is in no way saying that NO ONE dies from actual co-vid, but they are admitting that they count deaths that if anything have VERY little to do with the virus.

They are drumming up the news on covid deaths to push something on the world. Which we don't know about yet. Not good in my humble opinion.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I see mostly blue under your line.

And what does that mean?

Also, note the date range on the chart. It starts in 2017.

 

[lasthero]

And what does that mean?

Also, note the date range on the chart. It starts in 2017.

He’s just being deliberately obtuse.

 

[Broken Fence]

In your hospice scenario, if having COVID complicated their current illness and accelerated their death from additional damage from the virus it would be reasonable to list COVID as the immediate cause of death or at a minimum, a contributing factor.

If this same hospice patient died from an accident while in hospice, such as a medication error, or a fall, is the cause of death the accident or their terminal illness?

doctors have gone on record saying they were told to inflate numbers.

COVID doctors challenge CDC's rules on cause of death, concerned about inflated numbers

Also they intentionally infected nursing homes and prisons.

How States Turned Nursing Homes Into ‘Slaughter Houses’ By Forcing Them to Admit Discharged COVID-19 Patients | Jon Miltimore

Medical Expert: Federal Jail Intentionally Destroying Medical Records and Hiding Extent of Coronavirus Behind Bars

Not a theory a fact.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

doctors have gone on record saying they were told to inflate numbers.

COVID doctors challenge CDC's rules on cause of death, concerned about inflated numbers

As I've said multiple times now in this thread, there will undoubtedly be cases where deaths are misattributed to COVID. However, there will also be cases where deaths due to COVID are misattributed to other causes. Medicine, especially determining the exact cause of death for an already-deceased patient is hardly an exact science, and error works in both directions. Overall, the available data appears to point to an undercount rather than an overcount given the number of excess deaths recorded by the CDC in the period that COVID has been active in the US.

Also, your article does not say that doctors were "told to inflate numbers." It says that some doctors are worried that the way that they were told to report deaths could lead to inflated numbers. Not the same thing - you're assuming an intent without support.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No, no, no....you don't get it. Biden is not running. The puppet string manipulators are running.

Do you not see that?

Mhmm. Of course.

Is there anything that’s not a conspiracy in your worldview?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If that's what you think..then vote for the marxist supporters.

After the results from these last 4 years, I’ll be more than happy to.

 

[Broken Fence]

As I've said multiple times now in this thread, there will undoubtedly be cases where deaths are misattributed to COVID. However, there will also be cases where deaths due to COVID are misattributed to other causes. Medicine, especially determining the exact cause of death for an already-deceased patient is hardly an exact science, and error works in both directions. Overall, the available data appears to point to an undercount rather than an overcount given the number of excess deaths recorded by the CDC in the period that COVID has been active in the US.

Sorry I don't buy the pushed narrative, you can if you want to. They have lied from day 1 of covid. We will see what happens next this is a planned outbreak, you can live in denial if you want. That is your right and choice.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Medical Expert: Federal Jail Intentionally Destroying Medical Records and Hiding Extent of Coronavirus Behind Bars

FYI, that's about a federal jail. Controlled by the Bureau of Prisons, which is part of the DOJ, which reports to Trump.