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Abortion

Discussion in 'Christianity and World Religion' started by Mallory Knox, Jun 19, 2002.

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  1. MyJhongFist

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    I knew that...Why was everyone else having such a problem figuring it out???? :scratch:
     
  2. Mallory Knox

    Mallory Knox Active Member

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    I HAVE NO IDEA. I guess they just don't bother to read my posts. Or they have really, really bad reading comprehension skills.
     
  3. Mallory Knox

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    That makes no sense. You do not understand an abortion if the woman's life is in danger, but you do understand an abortion if the woman was raped? How does that work?

    And as for the second part I AGREE with you. That's all I've been saying all along.
     
  4. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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    Here is what Jesus said:

    John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was
    sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.

    Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

    Luke 20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. 38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him. 39 Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said.


    While small minded men are crying and complaining about matters they do not understand and some even curse God for being unjust and allowing "hell" to take over in His world, the Husbandman-Reaper quietly reaps the fields of men taking advantage of all circumstances.  While men below weep about death, those above rejoice with the newly redeemed from hell below including those "aborted" babies.  Here is Widsom:

    Ecclesiastes 4:2 Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive. 3 Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.

    Since "all things work together for the GOOD of them that love the Lord", we need to stop judging Him and complaining about His performance as a sovereign and CARING Creator-Father!  We need to humble our minds and seek to discover all the hidden works of God that we "missed" because of our callous and shallow thinking!  Amen?!  Amen!


    GOOD NEWS, Inc. :clap: :wave: :holy: :pink: ;)
     
  5. Mallory Knox

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    I don't give a flying **** what Jesus said.
     
  6. Valerie412

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    And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

    That is from the last line of your "so called" signature.  Who is speaking and to whom is this person speaking? When the day of judgement comes (and it will come whether or not you or any other atheist believes it will), you will know this statment to be true.

     
     
  7. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    Mallory: Believe me when I tell you... It would be better that you remain silent.
     
  8. Mallory Knox

    Mallory Knox Active Member

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    Samuel L Jackson is speaking to someone who made him mad.

    Don't you know your Bible well. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Mallory Knox

    Mallory Knox Active Member

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    Or what? I'll get flamed? I'll get banned? Do you really think I care?
     
  10. nyj

    nyj Goodbye, my puppy

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    Almost an absolute nonentity with today's advances in medical care. The child nowadays can be delivered prematurely up to 4 months early with a very strong chance of survival. A child born 1 1/2 to 1 months early is not a problem for medicine anymore.

    Didn't you just ask that question?

    Adoption.

    The answer IS never.

    If you don't like the answers you are receiving, why ask the question?
     
  11. OldBadfish

    OldBadfish Well-Known Member

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    I would listen to Stormy, this is really unnecessary, you Mallory are potentially starting trouble with a statement like this. :(

    Please be nice. :)
     
  12. OldBadfish

    OldBadfish Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you care, whats wrong?

    I think your going to get all the opinions you are going to get.

    I think it has been determined (at least by me :) ) that there are extreme circumstances in which abortion could be justified.

    However anything other than ultra extreme is not justifiable. IMO
     
  13. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    Are we fresh out of "Dead Horse" awards? :D
     
  14. Annabel Lee

    Annabel Lee Beware the Thought Police

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    I think KC and Wolseley have a supply of them hidden away somewhere. ;)
     
  15. OldBadfish

    OldBadfish Well-Known Member

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    No, I can come up with one, we always have a dead horse award if the occasion arises. :D

    Mallory: If you are satisfied this thread has answered your question, I will close this thread.

    You are welcome to repost this topic in the "Questions about Christianity" where you will get only answers from the staff, if you so desire.
     
  16. OldBadfish

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    Ooops, Annabel beat me to it. :)
     
  17. Mallory Knox

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    Well no duh. That wasn't the question. If the woman is going to die giving birth, is it okay to have an abortion?

    What about the nine-year-old girl who was raped by her grandfather? Is she allowed an abortion?

    I can't disagree with the answers given? I was trying to spark a debate.

     
     
  18. Valerie412

    Valerie412 New Member

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    I didn't say it was quoted from Scripture. I asked two questions and you answered them. It doesn't change my comment.  And by the way, I know my Bible well enough to know to pray for you...fervently. 

     
     
  19. Mallory Knox

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    You do that. Have fun.
     
  20. nyj

    nyj Goodbye, my puppy

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    It's a moot point. You're just as well served by asking "If the mother knew that aliens from outerspace were going to come down and kidnap her and kill her because she was carrying a child, should she get an abortion beforehand?"

    If science has eliminated it as a problem, there is no point in discussing it.

    It's like arguing geocentrism when you know the earth revolves around the sun. Why bother?

    Like I said, you ever hear of adoption?

    Regardless. Even if you take your "extreme" examples and add them together, they add up to less than 1% of the reasons why abortions are performed.

    If you're willing to rail against the establishment and get them to reverse the current stand on abortions for those people who are too lazy to face the consequences of their actions, I'll budge on nonsensical first point, and the extremely rare second point.

    This compromise should save millions of innocent lives each year. Deal?
     
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