I see it as improving society. If that means “controlling women’s sexuality”, eh, whatever. I can roll with that.
Yes. It is amazing how many men are certain they should control other peoples sex lives instead of their own. If only they had as much concern for the 1 in 5 women who will be raped in their lifetime.
Rape is already illegal.
I think perhaps you miss the thrust of my point. Rape happens a lot, to a lot of women. It is not just a few men whom are committing these rapes. It is another form of control of sexuality.
Dogs learn and we don't call them 'human'.Yet even scientific evidence indicates that it indeed does happen: Babies start learning before they are even born
Yeah before I got saved I was agnostic and I was against abortion. But the media was trying to convince me it was ok, it just always felt wrong to me. I also almost got aborted myself.There are Atheists against abortion, how would that fit into this religious dogma engraved in American law?
Dogs learn and we don't call them 'human'.
Yeah before I got saved I was agnostic and I was against abortion. But the media was trying to convince me it was ok, it just always felt wrong to me. I also almost got aborted myself.
To me, I'm actually shocked how atheists can support it. At least as Christians when a baby gets aborted we can know it is going to heaven immediately with God so even though the action of doing it is bad, at least we have comfort in that. But in atheists view they are literally preventing the babies from even existing and think the human-to-be will just be dead with no existence and no chance in life. It just seems sick to me. How can they support abortion when believing this?
Religion was a lot more carnal when women ran things.It really is! This is part and parcel of patriarchy. The control of female sexuality ensures the continued subjugation of the female. The ultimate control of female sexuality is in the rape culture. Patriarchy is perhaps the most insidious evil humanity has ever inflicted on itself.
As I said, rape is another form of control. I was wishing as many people cared about stopping rape from happening as those who put time and energy into stopping abortion.You were responding to the poster. Are you suggesting the poster is a rapist or supports rape? Otherwise, how does your comment relate to the topic?
Yeah, funny how the cost escalated after all the new regulations seeking to “improve women’s healthcare” placed onerous restrictions on abortion clinics, making their overhead rise.Just to put a number to that, the average cost of an abortion per Planned Parenthood is $350-950 in the first trimester.
Even the most effective on the list would indicate one pregnancy out of 1,000 women over a years time.
That is why I personally waited to have sex until I was ready for the possibility of having a child. Because if you are fertile then to have sex is to open up that possibility.
There's a reason God speaks against sex before marriage and adultery. I'm not going to tell you it's ok to murder your kids to make you feel better because you didn't listen.
As I said, rape is another form of control. I was wishing as many people cared about stopping rape from happening as those who put time and energy into stopping abortion.
Was “contraception” not an option?
You understand that clinics that provide abortion services, (even those that do not, but provide referrals to those that do) are to present prenatal information in a neutral manner.One reason is because places like Planned "Parenthood" are good at portraying a woman's unborn baby as less than human--as just some sort of unwanted growth that needs to be removed to improve the woman's life. Makes the whole abortion process seem so simple, so harmless, and without consequence.
Please point me to these “early laws” that prohibited abortion.Therefore, from the very beginning of our nation, our laws have declared that it is wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human being (so we really have no need of an additional law, religious or otherwise, to tell us what we already know, what we already hold to be self-evident truth).
When Abortion Was a CrimeAbortion was not always a crime. During the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, abortion of early pregnancy was legal under common law. Abortions were illegal only after "quickening," the point at which a pregnant woman could feel the movements of the fetus.
Yes. I have met a few Christians who believe as you do. Mostly here on CF. The problem is that your voices seem to be few and far between and they certainly are not in the political pro-life movements we see. If they were I think we would have a much better society and my respect for Christians would go up immensely. One of the best men I had the honor of knowing was a Christian who lived his faith rather then trying to legislate it.
...and that’s BAD?"Leading the Reproductive Health and Rights Movement
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Hello again Zephcom, being "BORN in America" in this case refers to/is solely concerned with the "place" of our birth, not the "moment" of our birth. The Constitution grants citizenship to those who are born here (or elsewhere, if the birth parents are Americans), but in doing so, it makes no attempt whatsoever to define when human life actually begins.Our Constitution states that being BORN in America confers citizenship. That seems to be only place where where our guiding documents attempts to define when life actually starts. You simply assume that your belief defines the beginning of human life and wrap yourself in the flag to pretend the nation supports you.
And, in fact, the primary guiding document...The Constitution, seems pretty clear that life begins at birth and not conception.
It really is! This is part and parcel of patriarchy. The control of female sexuality ensures the continued subjugation of the female. The ultimate control of female sexuality is in the rape culture. Patriarchy is perhaps the most insidious evil humanity has ever inflicted on itself.
...and that’s BAD?