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Where in any of the Sumerian Cuniform are anything resembling Icke's Reptilians mentioned?
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Manasseh_
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Scripture is not refuting my points, you are and you're trying to do it with another implication, ie, that the OT was written in english, so you go to other phrases IN THE ENGLISH then you say look ! they all say "sons of God" so therefore they must be angels only. Now just how did you apply that rule ?
sons of God in hebrew is ........son (ben)......God (elohyim), ........ben elohyim...........Moses was called that along with a number of other servants of God , most simply ben elohyim states servant of God, and both men angels those that are obedient to God are ben elohyim.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. < does this NT verse hold true at any time ? whether OT saints or NT.............they are also sons of God,...........are fallen angels being lead, guided by God's holy spirit..............now there's dumb question huh?
another thing you fail to take into account, MOSES wrote this, and he would have never referred to fallen angels as "servants of God"
The rest of the account you just ignore
The whole context is what man did and because of what man did God responded. Do you know what CONTEXT is ? The CONTENT within the text, the MAIN IDEA or PREMISE in the text..........
and what is the main context..........idea, premise
MEN began to multiply on earth
MEN took women only for their beauty not for their virtue
who cares if they were wicked women, women who worship false gods, they want them only because their "pretty" simply satisfying their own lusts
Then...........God says he's not going to struggle.........plead with wicked men constantly they are only flesh and I will give them 120 years of life and that's it, ample time to REPENT
God sees man's wickedness is now really getting bad, to the point that anything they can imagine they will do, no conscience at
and they wanted to keep doing it all the time
God is sorry for making man because their great wickedness grieved him
God is going to destroy man
There's the one and only CONTEXT of the whole account, MANKIND, no angels, no fallen angels, no fallen angels getting married to human women, no human women having half immortal and half mortal giant kids.
ALL that has to be INJECTED/ IMPLIED into the CONTEXT and it was INJECTED by the same kind of wicked men who only followed their own imaginations and lo and behold they DECEIVED so many into believing the same hogwash.
Only a set number committed this particular sin ? what sin? getting married to human women ? define what sin they committed, the scriptural definition of sin is transgression of the law, show me in God's 10 commandments a commandment, "thou shall not take human women as wives" .............or at least explain what sin you say they committed..............BTW........a "set number" of, if you somehow got out of Genesis 6 that it was a limited amount of them, then how many fallen angels took human wives ? 4, 5, 5,000, 5million........??
No we're not. we're supposed to study to be approved, we're supposed to prove all things, we're supposed to try every spirit/ doctrine, we're supposed to go over that doctrine with a fine tooth comb for one simple reason, if it is false then it's not the truth, and God is a spirit and we must worship him in TRUTH and in SPIRIT, if you worship God believing lies then you worship God in VAIN.
LoL, no one said that you said that, apparently you also have a comprehension problem. I said that everyone is held accountable for their own actions / sins, you said in this very reply that only particular angels had committed the sin.........but Genesis 6 says God was going to destroy men in a flood............that's the simple point if these fallen angels were responsible why is God going to destroy men, God never has held an innocent party responsible for the guilty party's wrong doing.........but YOUR DOCTRINE DOES............that's why I said YOUR DOCTRINE doesn't evendepict the God of the bible correctly, YOUR DOCTRINE bears false witness against God.
No they're not.........not what ever they choose, no angels whether servants of God or fallen angels can choose to get married......there is no marriages for immortals.........and .....Yeah, let's look at that verse again about GIANTS and see a grave error in your doctrine........
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Giants in the earth in what days ?
in the days EVEN BEFORE the so called fallen angels had sex with human women who were supposed to have been the ones who sired these giants.................now what in the world do we have giants running around even before they were born ????.......then ALSO AFTER THAT..........after what, giants already here, then the "fallen" angels and human women made some more I guess.
Ooops.........now there's a contradiction in your doctrine, giants already here, no the doctrine teaches that the fallen angels sired the giants..........already here, not already............"oops again, ok so we made a mistake in our doctrine, we have a big fat contradiction, so sue us........it's still the truth"???
I had already explained what giants / nephilim meant in the hebrew.......a bully or a tyrant..........the hebrew definition does not include "hybrid kids", you also ignored that simple fact. The giants were simply very famous men who lived in those days, but they were wicked famous men, leading all who followed them into more and more sin, we already have an example of that in Nimrod, he was a man of renown (famous) he was a bully and a tyrant, and he was a wicked man before God. Nimrod was not the offspring of some fallen angel and a human woman but in hebrew I could still call him a nephilim, a giant.
Yes I did, you just chose to ignore the verses again...........
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
and the reason you ignore the verses is because you came up with a wild idea that Noah's perfection had to do with genetics which is the largest stretch of imagination concerning the main thread of ALL SCRIPTURE..........which is about God, and man , what man done and does and how God responds ........it's all about righteousness and wickedness...............not about DNA
What you should do is just put aside this hogwash that some call truth and see this doctrine for what it is, just another lie that won't stand against scripture.
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So true. I mean if their gods were so great, they would have had digital cameras like our gods give us, right?
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Sorry... you lost me.So true. I mean if their gods were so great, they would have had digital cameras like our gods give us, right?
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I've noticed an increase in apocalyptic alien movies and tv shows, as well as occultic shows glorifying witches and vampires.
As far as the fallen angels having children with women - ALL TRUE.
Jude refers to it, as has already been referenced. But something folks might not be aware of is that Jude was referencing the Book of Enoch, quoting it word for word. Enoch describes exactly what happened.
6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
The Book of Enoch, Section I
And here is the in-depth detail about the fallen angels and what happened:
Chapter 6]
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
[Chapter 7]
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
[Chapter 8]
1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .
[Chapter 9]
1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have 10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'
[Chapter 10] 1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, 2 and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come 3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape 4 and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the 8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.' And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in 10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and 11 that each one of them will live five hundred years.' And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves 12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is 13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and 14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all 15 generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because 16 they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth' shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.
As far as the fallen angels having children with women - ALL TRUE.
Jude refers to it, as has already been referenced. But something folks might not be aware of is that Jude was referencing the Book of Enoch, quoting it word for word. Enoch describes exactly what happened.
6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
The Book of Enoch, Section I
Enoch 1:9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:
And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:
And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
And here is the in-depth detail about the fallen angels and what happened:
Chapter 6]
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
[Chapter 7]
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
[Chapter 8]
1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .
[Chapter 9]
1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have 10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'
[Chapter 10] 1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, 2 and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come 3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape 4 and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the 8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.' And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in 10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and 11 that each one of them will live five hundred years.' And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves 12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is 13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and 14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all 15 generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because 16 they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth' shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.
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Manasseh_
not the evil king Manasseh
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints
so.........................
Where is Jude making mention of Enoch's book ?
The mention of fallen angels getting married to human women ?
Fallen angels having sex with human women creating mutant offspring?
Why did God omit the book of "Enoch" from the rest of his inspired word ?
All I can read from that one single verse is that Enoch had prophesied about the Lord's coming (Day of the Lord) then when I continue to the next verse ........that he will bring his judgment upon the wicked also.
I can only read that Jude understood Enoch to also be prophet of God and that he mentioned one certain prophecy, which God easily could have revealed to Jude by the power of His Spirit.
You seem to get a lot of pop from just one verse.....in fact you got a whole other doctrine from just that verse....................?
BTW............the book of "Enoch" is pseudepigrapha, writings falsely ascribed to servants of God, someone wrote it , who knows who....., then put Enoch's name to it.
Enoch 69:9b-10 "And he instructed mankind in writing with ink and paper, and thereby many sinned from eternity to 10 eternity and until this day. For men were not created for such a purpose, to give confirmation 11 to their good faith with pen and ink..
Men were not created for such a purpose ??? to write down the things concerning their faith in God ???.......this would end up being a sin if they did ..........????
Apparently this "enoch" wasn't too inspired...............and he's writing down things concerning his faith !!!! ??? not to mention direct commands given by God to his servants to WRITE DOWN what he says...........that's one of the first things God commanded Moses, ...........and Christ.......?? what was the very first command Christ gave to John concerning the Revelation, .........we already know the answer to that one................Rev 1:11.........not to mention that anyone reading Revelation and believing it to be truth is given a special blessing........duh , how could I read something not written down.
so this "enoch" writes down" with pen and ink exactly what he's not supposed to be doing (contradiction) then in addition disagreeing with other scripture GOD'S WORDS WRITTEN DOWN where God does command to write it down.
and what this "enoch" wrote is supposed to have been inspired by God ???????????????? grief, how much common sense does it take to see how stupid this junk is..........
and I have a few dozen more of these kinds of verses from the book of "enoch" just like this.
Jude was NOT referencing the "book of enoch"
Jude was referencing what God had revealed to Enoch and also revealed to Jude .......then after what God revealed to Jude He inspired Jude to ..........................to WRITE IT DOWN !
If there had been a real Book of Enoch which was directly inspired by God then it would have been preserved in the torah / tenach.
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Oh I imagine when it is all said and done some of these people won't seem so crazy after allYay for crazy chuck
And Lord I know Im ready anytime you're ready to come for your Church
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Yes. Eschatologists have been making similar statements about how they will have the last laugh when they are proved right by the pending apocalypse for a couple of thousand years now.Oh I imagine when it is all said and done some of these people won't seem so crazy after all
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Actually, V isn't the alien deception you're looking for.
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OPTIMUS PRIME RETURNS! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!11111oneone
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OPTIMUS PRIME RETURNS! THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!11111oneone
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Chuck Missler always says "don't believe anything I say until you have checked it with the bible" Acts 17:11. with thus been said, do I accept everything he says? NO! But i think his line by line expository studies of the bible are beneficial (just like any other commentary out there).
When I have been in the ministry for as long as Chuck and have made as big of an impact in expository studies of the bible as he has, THEN, I will be able to call him names like...
HOWEVER, using the word "crazy" in describing Chuck Missler is not only disrespectful to another Christian and the many different ministry aspects that he has to offer , but is also against CF rules of protocol.
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When I have been in the ministry for as long as Chuck and have made as big of an impact in expository studies of the bible as he has, THEN, I will be able to call him names like...
HOWEVER, using the word "crazy" in describing Chuck Missler is not only disrespectful to another Christian and the many different ministry aspects that he has to offer , but is also against CF rules of protocol.
Flaming and Harassment
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It's really ridiculous of you to mock someone just because you happen to disagree with what they're saying. As far as I am aware, your comments on this thread have been just that: Your comments. You've posted nothing of any biblical or rational importance whatsoever.
I'll go ahead and reiterate what I had to say a few pages ago because no-one bothered to respond to my request. Will someone address my points about the Hebrew for "sons of God" being descriptive of only angels in the OT, and also address the verses in Jude which I clearly quoted.
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Achilles6129 said:
I'm simply expressing the fact that I find it ridiculous that people such as Missler have a following. This sub-forum is filled with my biblical and rational thoughts, the same as others that are of the same opinion.
My expression is not mockery but my own irritation towards "theologians" like Missler, Murray, Stone, etc. If you are taking offense to my expressing my feelings in such a way, I don't see how that's my problem.
I enjoy doing my part to balance out the eschatological conversation, however incorrigible the opposition seems to be.
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Now, that was truly funny
I noticed you still haven't addressed the verses from Jude yet.
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As fascinating as the Enochian literature is, and that's exactly where Jude is getting his information regarding angels falling from their original estate. And while it clearly does inform several comments in the New Testament in this regard; I'm not particularly convinced I should take Enoch as a literal, historical account.
It's also very strange to start doing eschatology based on wackadoodle notions concerning angel sex and aliens and the television shows that talk about extraterrestrial life. Can't we, you know, do our eschatology based on orthodox Christian teaching instead of making tinfoil hats?
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It's also very strange to start doing eschatology based on wackadoodle notions concerning angel sex and aliens and the television shows that talk about extraterrestrial life. Can't we, you know, do our eschatology based on orthodox Christian teaching instead of making tinfoil hats?
-CryptoLutheran
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