ABC News Moderators Blasted For Extreme Bias, Fact Checking Trump But Not Harris

[childeye 2]

Yes, that's a good tactic in a debate. It doesn't make you a good president though.
She won the debate, that's obvious, so what is it that I'm dodging?

Facts about Trump's unfitness to hold power because he abuses it. The fact that he is willing to lead people to their own destruction for the sake of his grandiosity.

I showed that Trump shows all the traits of a malignant narcissist, a mental disorder that recreates reality to support the fantasy of one's own grandiosity. And you said he was a type 3 personality. That looks to me like you're dismissing any claims that he has a dangerous mental health issue.

From my perspective, you don't seem concerned about Trump's investment in the fantasy that he won the election in a landslide; Both in regard to the short-term contagion that caused people to attack those who wouldn't believe in his fantasy, as well as the people who were willing to engage in a fake elector scheme so that he could stay in power; but also in regard to the long-term investment, to frame those who have pursued the criminality of his illegal attempt to overturn the valid results of an election, as the criminals who were the ones out for political gain.

 

[BPPLEE]

That your preferred candidate is that easily manipulated?

I don't deny it. He took the bait. He wasn't my preferred candidate but I guess you can say that now.

 

[BPPLEE]

Facts about Trump's unfitness to hold power because he abuses it. The fact that he is willing to lead people to their own destruction for the sake of his grandiosity.

I showed that Trump shows all the traits of a malignant narcissist, a mental disorder that recreates reality to support the fantasy of one's own grandiosity. And you said he was a type 3 personality. That looks to me like you're dismissing any claims that he has a dangerous mental health issue.

From my perspective, you don't seem concerned about Trump's investment in the fantasy that he won the election in a landslide; Both in regard to the short-term contagion that caused people to attack those who wouldn't believe in his fantasy, as well as the people who were willing to engage in a fake elector scheme so that he could stay in power; And in the long-term, to regard those who have pursued the criminality of his illegal attempt to overturn the valid results of an election, as the criminals who were the ones out for political gain.

I don't put much faith in you playing armchair psychologist and yes there are many problems with Trump.
I would much rather that Desantis had been the nominee but that didn't happen.
So we have Trump vs Harris.
I can't support Harris

 

[childeye 2]

I don't put much faith in you playing armchair psychologist and yes there are many problems with Trump.

I'm not asking you to put faith in me. I'm asking you to acknowledge the factual evidence that Trump has led people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie, that he won the election in a landslide, and it was stolen by the "radical" democrats. He lied. Also look and see that even now he is currently leading people to hate migrants so he can get re-elected.

I'm conveying that you should put faith in seeing others as yourself so as to put faith in the voice that says to love others as yourself, rather than voting for the voice of fear that says not to see others like yourself, because they're criminals here to do harm and destroy America.

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm not asking you to put faith in me. I'm asking you to acknowledge the factual evidence that Trump has led people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie, that he won the election in a landslide and it was stolen by democrats. Also look and see that even now he is currently leading people to hate migrants so he can get re-elected.

I'm conveying that you should put faith in loving others as you would want to be loved, rather than voting for the voice that says not to.

Please stop stating your opinions as being facts, and stop equating people agreeing with your opinions as "loving others as you would want to be loved".

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm not asking you to put faith in me. I'm asking you to acknowledge the factual evidence that Trump has led people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie, that he won the election in a landslide, and it was stolen by the "radical" democrats. He lied. Also look and see that even now he is currently leading people to hate migrants so he can get re-elected.

I'm conveying that you should put faith in seeing others as yourself so as to put faith in the voice that says to love others as yourself, rather than voting for the voice of fear that says not to see others like yourself, because they're criminals here to do harm and destroy America.

The majority of refugees and illegal immigrants are not violent and most are looking for work and trying to find a better life but there are gangs and criminals coming in too and they are committing crimes, there have been rapes and murders and traffic fatalities, those things are happening.

 

[childeye 2]

Please stop stating your opinions as being facts, and stop equating people agreeing with your opinions as "loving others as you would want to be loved".

I'm not doing any of that. Respectfully, you have misunderstood my sentiments. These are my reasonings:

It's a fact that Trump lost the election, just like it's a fact that Trump tried to get Pence to reject valid votes.

It's a fact that Trump said it was stolen through fraud rather than admit he lost.

It's a fact that people believed him.

It's a fact that people rioted because they believed in him.

It's a fact that people were injured went to prison and even died because they believed in him.

It's a fact that Trump shows no remorse.

It's a fact that Trump blamed the democrats for stealing it and also for the chaos.

It's a fact that every bad thing said about others without any proof is slander/defamatory.

It's a fact that Trump constantly says bad things about migrants such as being criminals from prisons, and insane people from insane asylums.

It's a fact that scripture defines the spirit of the devil as accuser/slanderer.

It's a fact that Jesus commanded us to love others as our own selves.

It's a fact that slandering others is NOT loving others as oneself.

It's a fact that I'm preaching the Word of God when I say to not slander and to love others as yourself.

Now, what do you have against that reasoning?

 

[childeye 2]

The majority of refugees and illegal immigrants are not violent and most are looking for work and trying to find a better life but there are gangs and criminals coming in too and they are committing crimes, there have been rapes and murders and traffic fatalities, those things are happening.

The bad things you're talking about have been happening mostly to the migrants.

But you still haven't addressed the fact that Trump has led people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie, that he won the election in a landslide, nor do you mention the slander of saying that it was stolen by the "radical" democrats.

 

[Aldebaran]

I'm not doing any of that. Respectfully, you have misunderstood my sentiments. These are my reasonings:

It's a fact that Trump lost the election, just like it's a fact that Trump tried to get Pence to reject valid votes.

It's a fact that Trump said it was stolen through fraud rather than admit he lost.

It's a fact that people believed him.

It's a fact that people rioted because they believed him.

It's a fact that people were injured went to prison and even died because they believe him.

It's a fact the Trump shows no remorse.

It's a fact the Trump blamed the democrats for stealing it and for the chaos.

It's a fact that every bad thing said about others without any proof is slander.

It's a fact that Trump constantly says bad things about migrants such as being criminals from prisons, and insane people from insane asylums.

It's a fact that scripture defines the spirit of the devil as accuser/slanderer.

It's a fact that Jesus commanded us to love others as our own selves.

It's a fact that slandering others is NOT loving others as oneself.

It's a fact that I'm preaching the Word of God when I say to not slander and to love others as yourself.

Now, what do you have against that reasoning?

Context matters.

 

[childeye 2]

Context matters.

I agree context matters. But still, if you don't mind, I'd like to know if you can see that my reasonings are based on facts?

 

[BPPLEE]

The bad things you're talking about have been happening mostly to the migrants.

But you still haven't addressed the fact that Trump has led people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie, that he won the election in a landslide, nor do you mention the slander of saying that it was stolen by the "radical" democrats.

Nor do you admit that Harris was the most radical senator, that she wanted to ban fracking, she supported defunding the police and she has a $10 trillion dollar plan to fight climate change, she said she would end the filibuster to pass the green new deal,
But now that she's running for president she's reversed herself on most issues
The election was stolen, by changing the rules, accepting ballots past the deadline, waving the signature verifications and other things that weighed heavily in Biden's favor and the lie that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation.
Suppressing that story helped get Biden elected.
It was stolen, just not the way they thought.

 

[Aldebaran]

I agree context matters. But still, if you don't mind, I'd like to know if you can see that my reasonings are based on facts?

You're taking facts, then applying your own opinion to form a narrative. The result is a distortion of truth, especially when facts you decide to omit are not included in that narrative.

 

[childeye 2]

Nor do you admit that Harris was the most radical senator, that she wanted to ban fracking, she supported defunding the police and she has a $10 trillion dollar plan to fight climate change, she said she would end the filibuster to pass the green new deal,
But now that she's running for president she's reversed herself on most issues

I've admitted that she was first against fracking but changed positions siding with Biden's policy.

I think people have to first parse the semantics over the defunding the police thing. There's a lot of propaganda that causes confusion.

I don't actually know all the issues where she may have or may not reversed herself. Like I said there's a lot of propaganda.

The point is that I want to know facts and I appreciate those who will correct me if I'm wrong or misled. I sincerely don't want to be ruled by lies because that results in being manipulated, and eventually being disconnected from reality.

So, what about you? Are you going to admit those facts about Trump leading people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie? And I remind you, that Americans ended up attacking fellow Americans, causing injury to many including prison time and even death for the girl who was shot; all because he insisted, he had won the election in a landslide, and it was stolen by the "radical" democrats.

 

[childeye 2]

You're taking facts, then applying your own opinion to form a narrative. The result is a distortion of truth, especially when facts you decide to omit are not included in that narrative.

I showed the facts I'm reasoning upon. They are on the record. Where have I applied one iota of opinion to form the narrative?

 

[BPPLEE]

I've admitted that she was first against fracking but changed positions siding with Biden's policy.

I think people have to first parse the semantics over the defunding the police thing. There's a lot of propaganda that causes confusion.

I don't actually know all the issues where she may have or may not reversed herself. Like I said there's a lot of propaganda.

The point is that I want to know facts and I appreciate those who will correct me if I'm wrong or misled. I sincerely don't want to be ruled by lies because that results in being manipulated, and eventually being disconnected from reality.

So, what about you? Are you going to admit those facts about Trump leading people to their own destruction for the sake of promoting his grandiose lie? And I remind you, that Americans ended up attacking fellow Americans, causing injury to many including prison time and even death for the girl who was shot; all because he insisted, he had won the election in a landslide, and it was stolen by the "radical" democrats.

Trump told the crowd to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. He didn't tell them to storm the Capitol.
Anyone that assaulted a police officer that day deserves to be in prison, but there is some evidence that the police provoked the crowd,
Some people say the whole thing was a set up and that pipe bomb that was in Kamala Harris' vicinity, (the one that the FBI has pictures of the person who planted it and his DNA, but they still haven't made an arrest,) they say that it was the back up plan in case they couldn't provoke the crowd.
I'm not much on conspiracy theories but there is something being covered up about that pipe bomb.
But back to the topic, Trump didn't tell anyone to storm the Capitol or assault police officers and I think he truly believed that the election had been stolen.
Still, I stopped supporting him after that.
When the campaigning started I supported Desantis.
But Trump got support because people felt that he was unfairly being prosecuted.
The lawfare handed him the nomination.
And here we are. I don't like a lot of the things Trump does and I wish he would learn when to shut up but given two bad choices I take the one that I feel will do the least damage.
I don't believe that Trump is some kind of psychotic mad man that you make him out to be.

 

[Bradskii]

Kamala did what the people who prepped her told her to do.
The ability to make Trump mad does not make someone a good fit for president

But that he gets triggered by someone just mentioning the crowd size at his rally makes him a bad fit. He didn't handle it well. He had weeks to prepare and it was like he brought a knife to a gun fight. I mean, come on...his minders surely would have told him that any personal attacks - just bring it back to the economy and immigration. She mentions his rallies and he raises an eyebrow, looks at her directly and says 'So you don't want to talk about...X, Y and Z. You want to talk about people walking about at my rallies and an empty seat or two. Please tell me you have more, Madam Vice President (channeling Col. Jessop at that point)'.

But what do we get? 'They're eating dogs! They're eating people's pets. I saw it on TV'

And you want to talk about being a good fit for president?

 

[wing2000]

In case you forg0t....on his first full day as POTUS, Trump visited CIA HQ and in front of the wall honoring those who died in service to the country, Trump complained about the press coverage of his crowd size at his inaugaration. Eight years later, he's still easily triggered by the very same topic.

The man has no self-control nor sense of decorum and respect for the Office of the Presidency.

January 21, 2016
Standing on hallowed ground at the Langley headquarters, in front of the wall of stars carved into marble to represent each of the 117 CIA agents who have died in service to the country, Trump lashed out at his critics, boasted of his appearances on magazine covers and exaggerated about the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-cia-langley-233971

 

[ralliann]

In case you forg0t....on his first full day as POTUS, Trump visited CIA HQ and in front of the wall honoring those who died in service to the country, Trump complained about the press coverage of his crowd size at his inaugaration. Eight years later, he's still easily triggered by the very same topic.

The man has no self-control nor sense of decorum and respect for the Office of the Presidency.

January 21, 2016
Standing on hallowed ground at the Langley headquarters, in front of the wall of stars carved into marble to represent each of the 117 CIA agents who have died in service to the country, Trump lashed out at his critics, boasted of his appearances on magazine covers and exaggerated about the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-cia-langley-233971

So what?????

 

[ralliann]

Trump told the crowd to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. He didn't tell them to storm the Capitol.
Anyone that assaulted a police officer that day deserves to be in prison, but there is some evidence that the police provoked the crowd,
Some people say the whole thing was a set up and that pipe bomb that was in Kamala Harris' vicinity, (the one that the FBI has pictures of the person who planted it and his DNA, but they still haven't made an arrest,) they say that it was the back up plan in case they couldn't provoke the crowd.
I'm not much on conspiracy theories but there is something being covered up about that pipe bomb.
But back to the topic, Trump didn't tell anyone to storm the Capitol or assault police officers and I think he truly believed that the election had been stolen.
Still, I stopped supporting him after that.
When the campaigning started I supported Desantis.
But Trump got support because people felt that he was unfairly being prosecuted.
The lawfare handed him the nomination.
And here we are. I don't like a lot of the things Trump does and I wish he would learn when to shut up but given two bad choices I take the one that I feel will do the least damage.
I don't believe that Trump is some kind of psychotic mad man that you make him out to be.

I would add in agreement with this post another aspect....We get labeled all kinds of awful things. So there are those of us that are treated in the same manner they treat Trump.....We ourselves experience it.

 

[Bradskii]

So what?????

Hardly what one might describe as 'presidential'.