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A woman's faith

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by KaylaI, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:46 AM.

  1. KaylaI

    KaylaI New Member

    United Kingdom
    Hello, I am a new member to the forum but have read the posts for a long time and have found them very useful. I wondered if someone might be able to help me with this. Last week, I was speaking to a Catholic friend who argued that women should not be priests or deacons and he had some very persuasive arguments. He was saying how there were no women disciples and Jesus was a man. I am Christian and a woman and I don't agree with him. I think we
    are all God's children and some of the best guidance I have received has been from women. What at do you think? What would you have said? He is very devout and was able to quote a lot of scripture and although I don't think I agree with him, it was difficult for me to express my thoughts. Really interested to see what people think.:help:
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  2. longwait

    longwait Well-Known Member

    Hello! Welcome to the forum. Where I come from there are no female priests or pastors so I felt really weird seeing them in western countries. But now I got used to it.
  3. adderbolt

    adderbolt Member

    United States
    Women are more likely to see the value of a local church. Women are more intelligent and better able to express ideas of faith and doctrine. But what does God's word instruct as to the gender of pastors and elders? After all that is the key to this 'locked door' ...
  4. disciple Clint

    disciple Clint Well-Known Member

    United States
    I am not aware of any Scripture that specifically states that a woman cannot be a priest or pastor. I would be interested to know what Scriptures he quoted. It is true that Jesus was a man and His disciples were male but there were female judges in the O.T. Mary Magdalen was a follower of Jesus and went on to have a ministry in France. The only issue I ever had with a woman priest was because she insisted on people calling her father. I have no idea what denomination she was but she did dress in traditional priest garb.
  5. public hermit

    public hermit social troglodyte Supporter

    United States
    Welcome. :)

    I don't think the idea that Jesus had no women disciples holds up. When Mary sat at Jesus's feet, while Martha was busy getting things ready, she was clearly functioning as a disciple. She was learning from the Teacher, which Jesus said was the better part. Jesus had a number of women disciples, some of whom supported Jesus and his followers. Jesus had more than just twelve disciples (for instance, he sends out seventy in Luke's gospel). John's gospel doesn't even name the 12 (unlike the synoptics).

    "Soon afterwards he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good news of the kingdom of God. The twelve were with him, as well as some women who had been cured of evil spirits and infirmities: Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, and Joanna, the wife of Herod’s steward Chuza, and Susanna, and many others, who provided for them out of their resources." Luke 8:1-3
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021 at 7:07 AM
  6. NomNomPizza

    NomNomPizza Active Member

    Yea women are forbidden to have any authority over men and to even speak or teach in church , they can teach younger women after church service.

    9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

    10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

    11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

    12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    2)A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
  7. KaylaI

    KaylaI New Member

    United Kingdom
    Thank you, everyone. These are all really interesting points and have given me a lot to think about. :idea::amen::clap: