A question to the Christian Trump supporters.

[Hazelelponi]

Trump is a warrior? That actually made me laugh. He may have paid lip service to your particular cause, but be sure he would never stand in the frontline for anything. Some warrior...

I don't think another soul on the planet could have stood against the tidal wave which is against us other than Trump.... everyone else would have folded under the onslaught, but Trump is still standing.

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

I think freedom should be a concern for all of us...
You're trying to impose tyranny on me....

Interestingly, the liberal left says exactly the same thing about conservative Christians; their point of view is that when they resist conservative tyranny they get accused of trying to impose it. Kinda of like a bully complaining that the little kid wouldn't stand still.
Now, before going off on an argument against that complaint, I challenge you to try to see the situation through another person's eyes, and see what it looks like to them. I did, and it made things look a lot different to me.

 

[Broken Fence]

I don't think another soul on the planet could have stood against the tidal wave which is against us other than Trump.... everyone else would have folded under the onslaught, but Trump is still standing.

@A2597 Put simply, what qualities of Christ do you see in Trump?

I wonder why we never hear Trump in this light. Christ- like indeed.

Remarks by President Trump at the White House National Day of Prayer Service | The White House

 

[Hazelelponi]

Interestingly, the liberal left says exactly the same thing about conservative Christians; their point of view is that when they resist conservative tyranny they get accused of trying to impose it. Kinda of like a bully complaining that the little kid wouldn't stand still.
Now, before going off on an argument against that complaint, I challenge you to try to see the situation through another person's eyes, and see what it looks like to them. I did, and it made things look a lot different to me.

I'm fairly liberal minded, what I'm not is a follower.

 

[ximmix]

I don't think another soul on the planet could have stood against the tidal wave which is against us other than Trump.... everyone else would have folded under the onslaught, but Trump is still standing.

Do you mean the tidal wave of the backlash he gets for his stupid and/or irresponsible decisions and tweets? If he were a warrior, he wouldn't draw fire to himself like he has been...

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Trump is a warrior? That actually made me laugh. He may have paid lip service to your particular cause, but be sure he would never stand in the frontline for anything. Some warrior...

Bone Spurs...

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

I'm fairly liberal minded, what I'm not is a follower.

That doesn't address the point I raised.
How do you look at complaints that the conservatives are the ones who want to impose their values on others?

 

[ximmix]

Bone Spurs...

Haha yes of course. Can be painful I hear...

 

[Hazelelponi]

Do you mean the tidal wave of the backlash he gets for his stupid and/or irresponsible decisions and tweets? If he were a warrior, he wouldn't draw fire to himself like he has been...

This was written in December 2019:


Black Americans
Black Americans have a true champion in President Trump.

• President Trump has created an astonishing 1.6 million new jobs for black Americans since his election. o In December, the black unemployment rate was at 5.9%.
  • The black American unemployment rate has been at or below 7% for 23 consecutive months.
  • Prior to President Trump’s administration, the black unemployment rate had never dipped below 7%.
  • In 2019, the African American unemployment rate hit a record low and remained below 7% for the entire year.
• Under President Trump, incomes for black Americans have increased by 2.6%.
• Under the Trump Economy, wages are continuing to rise which significantly benefits the lowest-paid workers.
• The poverty rate among black Americans is at its lowest level in history.
  • Under President Trump, 350,000 fewer black Americans are living in poverty.
• During the President’s first year in office, the black American poverty rate fell to 21.2% down from 22% the year before.
• As a result of the historic Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones were created in all 50 states, DC, and 5 territories.
  o Opportunity Zones which will create jobs and spur investment in disadvantaged communities.
  o These Opportunity Zones will spur $100 billion in private capital investment and impact 1.4 million minority households.
• President Trump signed the historic FIRST STEP Act into law.
  • The FIRST STEP ACT has been widely hailed as the most meaningful criminal justice reform in a generation.
  • This landmark legislation included necessary reforms to our justice system, improves our prison system, and prepares inmates for reentry in our communities.
  • As a result of the First Step Act, more than 3,000 Americans have been released from prison and 90% of those who have had their sentences reduced are black Americans.
  • The First Step Act shortens mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug crimes and provides judges greater liberty to go around mandatory minimums.
  • The law also allows offenders sentenced under racially motivated mandatory minimums to petition for their cases to be re-evaluated.
  • President Trump was awarded the 2019 Bipartisan Justice award by the nonprofit 20/20 Bipartisan Justice Center. The President received this award for his “ability to work across the aisle to achieve meaningful progress in reforming our criminal justice system.”
• President Trump has committed his Administration to advancing second chance hiring for former prisoners. This includes launching a “Ready to Work Initiative.”
• The Trump Administration has fought for a federal tax credit on donations that fund scholarships to private schools, a proposal supported by 64% of African Americans.
• President Trump has made supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) a top priority.
  • In February 2017, President Trump announced the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCUs.
  • The President signed an Executive Order on HBCUs in February 2017, the earliest any President has signed an Order on HBCUs.
  • The EO established an Interagency Working Group to advance and coordinate work regarding HBCUs.
  • The federal HBCU initiative office was moved back into the White House, a move that leaders had requested under President Obama.
  • President Trump has appropriated more money than any other president to HBCUs.
  • The President signed legislation to increase federal funding for HBCUs by 13%, the highest level ever.
  • President Trump signed the FUTURE Act into law. The law permanently funds HBCUs and simplifies the FAFSA application.
  • The President worked with Congress to lift the ban on Pell Grants on summer classes.
  • Through the Capital Financing Program, the Administration has provided more than $500 million in loans to HBCUs.
  • The President directed the entire federal government to develop a strategy to support HBCUs. To date, this has been supported by 32 departments and agencies.
  • The Administration has forgiven more than $300 million in outstanding debt for four schools impacted by natural disasters and the budget provided $10 million to defer loan payments for 6 school facing financial difficulties.
  • The Department of Education worked with HBCUs to protect $80 million in Title III carryover funding.
  • President Trump took a big step to end discriminatory restrictions to prevent faith based HBCUs from accessing federal support.
  • The Administration continues to work with HBCUs to expand apprenticeship opportunities, career choices, and ensure they are receiving adequate support.

Latino Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership the Latino American community has thrived.

• Under President Trump, Latino Americans have experienced record low unemployment.
• More than 2.9 million jobs have been created for Latino Americans since the President was elected.
  • In December, the Latino American unemployment rate was at a near record low of 4.2%.
  • The Hispanic American unemployment rate hit several record lows in 2019, including falling below 4% for the first time in history.
• The median Latino American income rose by $1,786 during President Trump’s first year in office.
  • In 2017, the median Latino American income hit its highest ever recorded level ($50,486).
• Since taking office, the Latino American homeownership rose by more than a percentage point (46.3% to 47.4%).
• In addition to the booming economy, President Trump renegotiated freer and fairer trade deals such as the USMCA.
• President Trump has stood up to socialism and communism in Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua.
  • Thanks to pressure from President Trump, 50 countries followed President Trump’s leadership in recognizing Juan Guaidó as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
  • The Trump administration has rolled back President Obama’s disastrous rapprochement with Cuba, which only benefited the country’s dictatorship instead of its people.
  • At the direction of President Trump, the Treasury Department has imposed sanctions against senior officials in the Nicaraguan regime for their role in human rights abuses and undermining democracy.
• The President has made it clear that American interests do not align with failed socialist policies.

Asian Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership Asian American unemployment has reached record lows.

• In December, the Asian American unemployment rate was 2.5%, near a historic low.
• The lowest ever record unemployment rate for Asian Americans (2.1%) came in June 2019.

https://colliergop.org/trump-administration-accomplishments-january-2020/

He when your stuck on "tweets" your missing the actions, which is best because the left talks a talk that they fight against in action.

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

This was written in December 2019:


Black Americans
Black Americans have a true champion in President Trump.

• President Trump has created an astonishing 1.6 million new jobs for black Americans since his election. o In December, the black unemployment rate was at 5.9%.
  • The black American unemployment rate has been at or below 7% for 23 consecutive months.
  • Prior to President Trump’s administration, the black unemployment rate had never dipped below 7%.
  • In 2019, the African American unemployment rate hit a record low and remained below 7% for the entire year.
• Under President Trump, incomes for black Americans have increased by 2.6%.
• Under the Trump Economy, wages are continuing to rise which significantly benefits the lowest-paid workers.
• The poverty rate among black Americans is at its lowest level in history.
  • Under President Trump, 350,000 fewer black Americans are living in poverty.
• During the President’s first year in office, the black American poverty rate fell to 21.2% down from 22% the year before.
• As a result of the historic Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones were created in all 50 states, DC, and 5 territories.
  o Opportunity Zones which will create jobs and spur investment in disadvantaged communities.
  o These Opportunity Zones will spur $100 billion in private capital investment and impact 1.4 million minority households.
• President Trump signed the historic FIRST STEP Act into law.
  • The FIRST STEP ACT has been widely hailed as the most meaningful criminal justice reform in a generation.
  • This landmark legislation included necessary reforms to our justice system, improves our prison system, and prepares inmates for reentry in our communities.
  • As a result of the First Step Act, more than 3,000 Americans have been released from prison and 90% of those who have had their sentences reduced are black Americans.
  • The First Step Act shortens mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug crimes and provides judges greater liberty to go around mandatory minimums.
  • The law also allows offenders sentenced under racially motivated mandatory minimums to petition for their cases to be re-evaluated.
  • President Trump was awarded the 2019 Bipartisan Justice award by the nonprofit 20/20 Bipartisan Justice Center. The President received this award for his “ability to work across the aisle to achieve meaningful progress in reforming our criminal justice system.”
• President Trump has committed his Administration to advancing second chance hiring for former prisoners. This includes launching a “Ready to Work Initiative.”
• The Trump Administration has fought for a federal tax credit on donations that fund scholarships to private schools, a proposal supported by 64% of African Americans.
• President Trump has made supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) a top priority.
  • In February 2017, President Trump announced the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCUs.
  • The President signed an Executive Order on HBCUs in February 2017, the earliest any President has signed an Order on HBCUs.
  • The EO established an Interagency Working Group to advance and coordinate work regarding HBCUs.
  • The federal HBCU initiative office was moved back into the White House, a move that leaders had requested under President Obama.
  • President Trump has appropriated more money than any other president to HBCUs.
  • The President signed legislation to increase federal funding for HBCUs by 13%, the highest level ever.
  • President Trump signed the FUTURE Act into law. The law permanently funds HBCUs and simplifies the FAFSA application.
  • The President worked with Congress to lift the ban on Pell Grants on summer classes.
  • Through the Capital Financing Program, the Administration has provided more than $500 million in loans to HBCUs.
  • The President directed the entire federal government to develop a strategy to support HBCUs. To date, this has been supported by 32 departments and agencies.
  • The Administration has forgiven more than $300 million in outstanding debt for four schools impacted by natural disasters and the budget provided $10 million to defer loan payments for 6 school facing financial difficulties.
  • The Department of Education worked with HBCUs to protect $80 million in Title III carryover funding.
  • President Trump took a big step to end discriminatory restrictions to prevent faith based HBCUs from accessing federal support.
  • The Administration continues to work with HBCUs to expand apprenticeship opportunities, career choices, and ensure they are receiving adequate support.

Latino Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership the Latino American community has thrived.

• Under President Trump, Latino Americans have experienced record low unemployment.
• More than 2.9 million jobs have been created for Latino Americans since the President was elected.
  • In December, the Latino American unemployment rate was at a near record low of 4.2%.
  • The Hispanic American unemployment rate hit several record lows in 2019, including falling below 4% for the first time in history.
• The median Latino American income rose by $1,786 during President Trump’s first year in office.
  • In 2017, the median Latino American income hit its highest ever recorded level ($50,486).
• Since taking office, the Latino American homeownership rose by more than a percentage point (46.3% to 47.4%).
• In addition to the booming economy, President Trump renegotiated freer and fairer trade deals such as the USMCA.
• President Trump has stood up to socialism and communism in Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua.
  • Thanks to pressure from President Trump, 50 countries followed President Trump’s leadership in recognizing Juan Guaidó as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
  • The Trump administration has rolled back President Obama’s disastrous rapprochement with Cuba, which only benefited the country’s dictatorship instead of its people.
  • At the direction of President Trump, the Treasury Department has imposed sanctions against senior officials in the Nicaraguan regime for their role in human rights abuses and undermining democracy.
• The President has made it clear that American interests do not align with failed socialist policies.

Asian Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership Asian American unemployment has reached record lows.

• In December, the Asian American unemployment rate was 2.5%, near a historic low.
• The lowest ever record unemployment rate for Asian Americans (2.1%) came in June 2019.

https://colliergop.org/trump-administration-accomplishments-january-2020/

He when your stuck on "tweets" your missing the actions, which is best because the left talks a talk that they fight against in action.

You still aren't saying how you would respond to complaints from somebody who didn't like something "your side" did. How would you?

 

[Speedwell]

This was written in December 2019:


Black Americans
Black Americans have a true champion in President Trump.

• President Trump has created an astonishing 1.6 million new jobs for black Americans since his election. o In December, the black unemployment rate was at 5.9%.
  • The black American unemployment rate has been at or below 7% for 23 consecutive months.
  • Prior to President Trump’s administration, the black unemployment rate had never dipped below 7%.
  • In 2019, the African American unemployment rate hit a record low and remained below 7% for the entire year.
• Under President Trump, incomes for black Americans have increased by 2.6%.
• Under the Trump Economy, wages are continuing to rise which significantly benefits the lowest-paid workers.
• The poverty rate among black Americans is at its lowest level in history.
  • Under President Trump, 350,000 fewer black Americans are living in poverty.
• During the President’s first year in office, the black American poverty rate fell to 21.2% down from 22% the year before.
• As a result of the historic Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones were created in all 50 states, DC, and 5 territories.
  o Opportunity Zones which will create jobs and spur investment in disadvantaged communities.
  o These Opportunity Zones will spur $100 billion in private capital investment and impact 1.4 million minority households.
• President Trump signed the historic FIRST STEP Act into law.
  • The FIRST STEP ACT has been widely hailed as the most meaningful criminal justice reform in a generation.
  • This landmark legislation included necessary reforms to our justice system, improves our prison system, and prepares inmates for reentry in our communities.
  • As a result of the First Step Act, more than 3,000 Americans have been released from prison and 90% of those who have had their sentences reduced are black Americans.
  • The First Step Act shortens mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug crimes and provides judges greater liberty to go around mandatory minimums.
  • The law also allows offenders sentenced under racially motivated mandatory minimums to petition for their cases to be re-evaluated.
  • President Trump was awarded the 2019 Bipartisan Justice award by the nonprofit 20/20 Bipartisan Justice Center. The President received this award for his “ability to work across the aisle to achieve meaningful progress in reforming our criminal justice system.”
• President Trump has committed his Administration to advancing second chance hiring for former prisoners. This includes launching a “Ready to Work Initiative.”
• The Trump Administration has fought for a federal tax credit on donations that fund scholarships to private schools, a proposal supported by 64% of African Americans.
• President Trump has made supporting Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) a top priority.
  • In February 2017, President Trump announced the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCUs.
  • The President signed an Executive Order on HBCUs in February 2017, the earliest any President has signed an Order on HBCUs.
  • The EO established an Interagency Working Group to advance and coordinate work regarding HBCUs.
  • The federal HBCU initiative office was moved back into the White House, a move that leaders had requested under President Obama.
  • President Trump has appropriated more money than any other president to HBCUs.
  • The President signed legislation to increase federal funding for HBCUs by 13%, the highest level ever.
  • President Trump signed the FUTURE Act into law. The law permanently funds HBCUs and simplifies the FAFSA application.
  • The President worked with Congress to lift the ban on Pell Grants on summer classes.
  • Through the Capital Financing Program, the Administration has provided more than $500 million in loans to HBCUs.
  • The President directed the entire federal government to develop a strategy to support HBCUs. To date, this has been supported by 32 departments and agencies.
  • The Administration has forgiven more than $300 million in outstanding debt for four schools impacted by natural disasters and the budget provided $10 million to defer loan payments for 6 school facing financial difficulties.
  • The Department of Education worked with HBCUs to protect $80 million in Title III carryover funding.
  • President Trump took a big step to end discriminatory restrictions to prevent faith based HBCUs from accessing federal support.
  • The Administration continues to work with HBCUs to expand apprenticeship opportunities, career choices, and ensure they are receiving adequate support.

Latino Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership the Latino American community has thrived.

• Under President Trump, Latino Americans have experienced record low unemployment.
• More than 2.9 million jobs have been created for Latino Americans since the President was elected.
  • In December, the Latino American unemployment rate was at a near record low of 4.2%.
  • The Hispanic American unemployment rate hit several record lows in 2019, including falling below 4% for the first time in history.
• The median Latino American income rose by $1,786 during President Trump’s first year in office.
  • In 2017, the median Latino American income hit its highest ever recorded level ($50,486).
• Since taking office, the Latino American homeownership rose by more than a percentage point (46.3% to 47.4%).
• In addition to the booming economy, President Trump renegotiated freer and fairer trade deals such as the USMCA.
• President Trump has stood up to socialism and communism in Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua.
  • Thanks to pressure from President Trump, 50 countries followed President Trump’s leadership in recognizing Juan Guaidó as the legitimate leader of Venezuela.
  • The Trump administration has rolled back President Obama’s disastrous rapprochement with Cuba, which only benefited the country’s dictatorship instead of its people.
  • At the direction of President Trump, the Treasury Department has imposed sanctions against senior officials in the Nicaraguan regime for their role in human rights abuses and undermining democracy.
• The President has made it clear that American interests do not align with failed socialist policies.

Asian Americans
Under President Trump’s leadership Asian American unemployment has reached record lows.

• In December, the Asian American unemployment rate was 2.5%, near a historic low.
• The lowest ever record unemployment rate for Asian Americans (2.1%) came in June 2019.

https://colliergop.org/trump-administration-accomplishments-january-2020/

He when your stuck on "tweets" your missing the actions, which is best because the left talks a talk that they fight against in action.

Some of those things are actually true and positive. Some of those positive things were even brought about, at least in part, by Trump himself. Good for Trump. Presidents always get to take credit for things that happened on their watch anyway. But what has he done for your social agenda?

 

[Albion]

@A2597 Put simply, what qualities of Christ do you see in Trump?

I wonder why we never hear Trump in this light. Christ- like indeed.

I don't think we'll find St. Francis of Assisi or Mother Teresa on the ballot, so I cannot vote for one of them.

 

[ximmix]

He when your stuck on "tweets" your missing the actions, which is best because the left talks a talk that they fight against in action.

Ok, tell me about one action Trump did to accomplish this.

And why the scare quotes on tweets? He does tweet a lot you know, so it's real...

 

[Albion]

And why the scare quotes on tweets? He does tweet a lot you know, so it's real...

Many people who support the President do not care for his tweets, so that isn't the issue.

 

[ximmix]

Many people who support the President do not care for his tweets, so that isn't the issue.

The words of the president aren't important to his supporters? Ok, good to know.

 

[Broken Fence]

Ok, tell me about one action Trump did to accomplish this.

And why the scare quotes on tweets? He does tweet a lot you know, so it's real...

Declared Jerusalem
Pulled funding on WHO
Declared USA sovereignty at UN

 

[ximmix]

Declared Jerusalem
Pulled funding on WHO
Declared USA sovereignty at UN

Hehe yes. Hi again btw.

 

[Broken Fence]

Hehe yes. Hi again btw.

Smile, also stopped federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

 

[ximmix]

Smile, also stopped federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

He has been very busy, for the betterment of the US and the world. (end of sarcasm)

 

[Broken Fence]

He has been very busy, for the betterment of the US and the world. (end of sarcasm)

Depends how you look at things. Could be good or bad depending on your point of view. My question is does this strengthen or subside USA global power? Are we playing into the schemes of the enemy?