A president attacking a sovereign nation

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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

Under the current laws as regarding the use of military force, no.

Should his actions lead to those laws being changed, and he subsequently violates those laws, then yes.

Now, tell us more about what Obama did...
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

No. That's not an impeachable offense. As commander-in-chief of the armed forces is fully within his or her powers to do so. Though the prudence of such a decision comes down to individual cases and circumstances.

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I thought he was referring to Reagan's invasion of Grenada.

It seems unlikely that his name would be taken in vain...
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

Well, he only has one more year left, and congress voted to limit his war power.

In a sense, I feel what he did is irreversible. I don't like it at all, but the damage is done. How do we fix it?
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

If there is an AUMF in effect- probably no! but iof not- it is an egregious act of was and could very well be an impeachable offense.
 
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I thought he was referring to Reagan's invasion of Grenada.
Well, Grenada certainly didn't involve a "full bombing" of anything.

What I immediately thought of was Obama's billion-dollar bombing attack against Libya in which its head of state was killed and government overthrown. Not a peep out of the same people who are presently uncomfortable over the killing of one terrorist, of course.
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?
Sure, if Congress feels that he overstepped his authority.
Well, Grenada certainly didn't involve a "full bombing" of anything.

What I immediately thought of was Obama's billion-dollar bombing attack against Libya in which its head of state was killed and government overthrown. Not a peep out of the same people who are presently uncomfortable over the killing of one terrorist, of course.
The bombing of Libya came out of a UN Security Council resolution and had broad international support due to the human rights abuses of Ghaddafi's regime. It was carried out jointly with several allied nations. Furthermore, the strikes were not targeted at any individuals, but instead orchestrated to protect civilians from the Libyan military. We did not assassinate Ghaddafi - he was captured and killed by opposition forces.

I don't see very many parallels between this and Solemani's assassination.
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

Posed no threat? Sure. Attacked one of our military outposts? No.
 
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Well, he only has one more year left, and congress voted to limit his war power.

In a sense, I feel what he did is irreversible. I don't like it at all, but the damage is done. How do we fix it?
Actually the House simply passed a non-binding resolution. BTW, check your math.....5 more years to go......
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?
Congress can impeach a president simply because they don't like him....sorta like what is happening now.
 
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Congress can impeach a president simply because they don't like him....sorta like what is happening now.

That's pretty much what we're going through, yes. But I remember the overly zealous Republicans swearing that Obama would be a one term president. There was never any serious talk of impeachment.

We live in a different time now I suppose.
 
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That's pretty much what we're going through, yes. But I remember the overly zealous Republicans swearing that Obama would be a one term president. There was never any serious talk of impeachment.

We live in a different time now I suppose.

Gee...I wonder why there was no talk of impeaching Obama....?
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

...and the point of this question? Many people across the political spectrum support Congress reclaiming their power to declare war but I don't recall anyone suggesting impeachment for any President who ordered military action and notified Congress.
 
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That's pretty much what we're going through, yes. But I remember the overly zealous Republicans swearing that Obama would be a one term president. There was never any serious talk of impeachment.
Perhaps because the previous president didn't give cause.

We live in a different time now I suppose.
That's for shizzle! Now if a president uses his office for personal gain, Republicans support him. Now if a president tells 15,000 whoppers before his first term has finished, Republicans shrug or snigger. Now if a president smears members of the opposition party with lies, nobody blinks an eye. Yes, times have changed.
 
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If a president ordered a full bombing attack on a country we are not at war with and posed no threat to us whatsoever, should he be impeached?

It is too late to impeach Obama now.
 
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