A God who can't be proven?

[JohnClay]

From the Godfellas episode of Futurama:

"...Bender, being God isn't easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch like a safecracker or a pickpocket... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."

The last sentence is also repeated when the end credits start...

God in the "Bruce Almighty" movie was a bit like that.

I believe I'm probably in a simulation and that there is an intelligent force. Though the supernatural is possible in Sims games,

"...I think all evidence of God can also explained by coincidence, delusion, or hallucinations..."

So atheists might say that the sightings of Jesus after his death were hallucinations... perhaps people saw a truly risen Jesus but my point is that the hallucination theory is plausible, at least to many atheists.

For me, my evidence for the existence of an intelligent force can be explained away by coincidence.
Hearing songs with seemingly supernatural significance

Here is a web page that compares all-or-nothing fundamentalism to all-or-nothing atheism to liberal theism - then adds the Bible to my theory.

The Bible Test - Life's Player

 

[Caliban]

Here is a web page that compares all-or-nothing fundamentalism to all-or-nothing atheism to liberal theism - then adds the Bible to my theory.

What is all or nothing Atheism? The standard definition of Atheism is simple the withholding of belief in a god. There are a small number of strong atheists--they claim they know god doesn't exist. Most atheists take the approach that they remain unconvinced a god doesn't exist--those would be agnostic-atheists. I have not encountered a strong atheist on this forum yet--sightings in the wild are rare. Are you referring to strong atheism?

 

[-57]

There is a God...and here's a bit of proof. How did this come about without intelligent design?

 

[.Mikha'el.]

This is correct. If God could be proven, He'd be fact, not something to be accepted on faith.

 

[Caliban]

There is a God...and here's a bit of proof. How did this come about without intelligent design?

This is a Harvard video produced by XVIVO. Do you think the Harvard scientists behind the presented information have concluded a god designed the cell? If not, how do they explain it?

 

[Caliban]

This is correct. If God could be proven, He'd be fact, not something to be accepted on faith.

That's exactly right. It is faith. But couldn't a person believe anything on faith?

 

[-57]

Here's another video...How can this happen by chance?

 

[-57]

And yet another video that shows us just how wonderfully we are made by God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is a God...and here's a bit of proof. How did this come about without intelligent design?

Nope, that is an argument from ignorance. You do not get to say "I don't know therefore God" any more than I get to say "I don't know therefore it was natural".

All that one can do is show what he can demonstrate to be correct and what one can demonstrate to be wrong.

 

[Caliban]

Here's another video...How can this happen by chance?

Here's another video...How can this happen by chance?

I think you are making the God of The Gaps mistake. Science has explained the development of the cell.

 

[-57]

This is a Harvard video produced by XVIVO. Do you think the Harvard scientists behind the presented information have concluded a god designed the cell? If not, how do they explain it?

I don't really care what the Harvard guys think...What I want to know from skeptical you is....how did it evolve?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Here's another video...How can this happen by chance?

Definitely not by chance. But then that does not rule out natural processes. If one wants to win a debate one should not use strawman arguments.

 

[Caliban]

An actual scientific paper that survived the peer review process:
Origin and Evolution of DNA and DNA Replication Machineries - Madame Curie Bioscience Database - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't really care what the Harvard guys think...What I want to know from skeptical you is....how did it evolve?

It is best to ask the experts. By your standards God did not do it since you cannot explain how he did it. You are not being consistent in your reasoning. The Harvard guys might know how it evolved. If they don't an "I don't know" does not refute naturalism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

An actual scientific paper that survived the peer review process:
Origin and Evolution of DNA and DNA Replication Machineries

The link did not work for me.

 

[-57]

Here's yet another video...Tell me, how did the code evolve?

 

[Caliban]

I don't really care what the Harvard guys think...What I want to know from skeptical you is....how did it evolve?

Here ya go--as requested:
The Origins of Cellular Life

 

[Caliban]

The link did not work for me.

Try this
Origin and Evolution of DNA and DNA Replication Machineries - Madame Curie Bioscience Database - NCBI Bookshelf

 

[-57]

Nope, that is an argument from ignorance. You do not get to say "I don't know therefore God" any more than I get to say "I don't know therefore it was natural".

All that one can do is show what he can demonstrate to be correct and what one can demonstrate to be wrong.

Your problem is...this builds life....and evolutionism can't even begin to explain it. You should be blown away by Gods handy work...but, your arrogance fights it.

 

[Caliban]

Here's yet another video...Tell me, how did the code evolve?

Videos are not science-they are entertainment. I suggest reading the actual scientific literature.