A Conservative Republican Explains Why He Will Vote for Harris and Walz

[Stephen3141]

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/22/g-s1-19226/adam-kinzinger-trump-dnc-speech

Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican lawmaker, explains at the Democratic
National Convention, why he will be voting for the Democratic presidential ticket.

And, he urges conservative Republicans who value law and order, and the
Democratic institutions, to do the same.

Kinsinger represents the dilemma of conservative Republicans, who were
repulsed by the lawless violence demonstrated by MAGA Republicans at the
rioting at the Capital Building. And Kinsinger is clear that he is convinced
that it was Donald Trump who inspired this lawless violence, against
an institution of American democracy.

 

[Unqualified]

Ridiculous. If he is voting the democratic tickets he is liberal or moderate.

 

[Stephen3141]

Ridiculous. If he is voting the democratic tickets he is liberal or moderate.

I am trying to figure out what you are expressing.

"Ridiculous!" in reply to what, that I said?

And, as I have noted before, the word "liberal" is used in a number of different
ways (such as in a "liberal education"), and not simply as not-socialist or
not-communist.

I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to express.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Ridiculous. If he is voting the democratic tickets he is liberal or moderate.

I voted Republican for my local government. Guess that makes me a conservative.

 

[expos4ever]

Ridiculous. If he is voting the democratic tickets he is liberal or moderate.

You are avoiding the thrust of the initial post. Kinzinger gives a clear, concise explanation of the problem he sees with Trump. You, artfully evade that and try to slap a label on him. However, the assiduous reader will see that you have danced away specifics of Kinzinger's claim .

 

[Adam56]

And Kinsinger is clear that he is convinced
that it was Donald Trump who inspired this lawless violence

And this is where the entire argument falls apart. Trump explicitly instructed his supporters to do a peaceful protest.

You are avoiding the thrust of the initial post. Kinzinger gives a clear, concise explanation of the problem he sees with Trump. You, artfully evade that and try to slap a label on him. However, the assiduous reader will see that you have danced away specifics of Kinzinger's claim .

His view is Trump invited violence when anyone with half a brain knows he didn’t.

 

[Unqualified]

I am trying to figure out what you are expressing.

"Ridiculous!" in reply to what, that I said?

And, as I have noted before, the word "liberal" is used in a number of different
ways (such as in a "liberal education"), and not simply as not-socialist or
not-communist.

I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to express.

It’s ridiculous to think that a conservative republican is even testifying at the dnc. He must ne a moderate or liberal republican. Makes no sense, is laughable.

 

[Stephen3141]

I posted this article, because it is rather UNPRECEDENTED
that Republicans, who have a history of being for law and order,
and for strong democratic institutions, have come to believe
that the Democratic presidential ticket is better for democracy
in America, than the Republican ticket.

AND, that conservative Republicans who have arrived at this conclusion,
would be INVITED to speak at the Democratic National Convention.
Note that Kamala, in her recent DNC speech, welcomed members of
ALL political parties, to unite together and affirm the great ideals on
which America was built. It seems clear to me, that Kamala see Trump
as the problem, NOT conservative Republicans.

This does not indicate (as some MAGA Republicans think) that these
Republicans have abandoned law and order or being conservative.
Rather, it indicates how RADICAL Trump has become, in many of his
slogans and assertions. It it Trump, who has left the conservative
fold, and launched off on a journey of unsubstantiated conspiracy
theories, and slogans that historic tyrants have used.

It is Trump, who has moved radically to the right.

 

[Stephen3141]

Three new co-chairs join Republicans for Harris in Florida. One calls Trump ‘a blustering, name-calling bully.’

A trio of Republicans who were leading strategists in their party for a generation and held high-level positions in Florida government are the newest backers of Vice President Kamala Harris. They w…

www.sun-sentinel.com

Former Republicans strategists for the Florida Republican Party,
have decided to vote for Harris.

This joins a flood of Republicans who have held high positions in the
Republican Party, or the former Trump government, who have decided
that Trump is too unstable to be president. They are voting for Harris.

 

[Stephen3141]

McConnell called Trump 'despicable' and a 'narcissist,' cried after Capitol riot, new book says

The biography from the Associated Press' Michael Tackett will be released shortly before Election Day.

www.usatoday.com

In a new book, Mitch McConnell has some very negative criticisms
of Donald Trump.

 

[Job 33:6]

Donald Trump has moved really far to the right. The traditional or conventional, and historical Republican party has been overshadowed by his anti-establishment, isolationist approach to politics.

This became clear very early on with Donald Trump's criticism of historically well respected Republican figures, such as John McCain, Mit Romney, and even George W. Bush.

Trump had a longstanding feud with John McCain, criticizing his military service (and his credibility as a former veteran and POW) and opposing some of his policy positions, especially McCain’s vote against repealing the Affordable Care Act.

Trump has repeatedly criticized Romney, especially after Romney became one of the few Republicans to vote for Trump's impeachment in 2020. Romney has been vocal about his opposition to Trump’s behavior and policies.

Trump has criticized the former president Bush's decision to invade Iraq and his handling of the war on terror, often blaming Bush for long-term consequences in the Middle East.

Donald Trump has criticised each of the above, despite these being traditionally well respected Republican leaders.

 

[Truth7t7]

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/22/g-s1-19226/adam-kinzinger-trump-dnc-speech

Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican lawmaker, explains at the Democratic
National Convention, why he will be voting for the Democratic presidential ticket.

And, he urges conservative Republicans who value law and order, and the
Democratic institutions, to do the same.

Kinsinger represents the dilemma of conservative Republicans, who were
repulsed by the lawless violence demonstrated by MAGA Republicans at the
rioting at the Capital Building. And Kinsinger is clear that he is convinced
that it was Donald Trump who inspired this lawless violence, against
an institution of American democracy.

Jan 6th is a dead horse, the world knows well it was a Pelosi inside job, witheld video surveillance of the capitol been released to the world, the US Supreme Court has ruled long ago on a presidents immunity

Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheny are long gone, the book is in chapter 10 now not chapter 2

 

[JulieB67]

Kinsinger represents the dilemma of conservative Republicans, who were
repulsed by the lawless violence demonstrated by MAGA Republicans at the
rioting at the Capital Building. And Kinsinger is clear that he is convinced
that it was Donald Trump who inspired this lawless violence, against
an institution of American democracy.

I'm not buying that's the reason. For one I don't believe that he did incite violence. And number two it's perfectly all right for other protesters to burn down other cities, take over part of cities (Seattle) and so on with many getting only a slap on the wrist? Are they forgetting they set fire to courthouses and police buildings? With Kamala even wanting to fund some of their releases.

That's what I call ridiculous. Those protests make the capitol building stuff look like a peace parade for sure. And I'm still not sure we know all there is to know about Jan 6.

 

[Truth7t7]

I'm not buying that's the reason. For one I don't believe that he did incite violence. And number two it's perfectly all right for other protesters to burn down other cities, take over part of cities (Seattle) and so on with many getting only a slap on the wrist? Are they forgetting they set fire to courthouses and police buildings? With Kamala even wanting to fund some of their releases.

That's what I call ridiculous. Those protests make the capitol building stuff look like a peace parade for sure. And I'm still not sure we know all there is to know about Jan 6.

The truth of many things including Jan 6th will be exposed once the Republicans take the white house and the FBI and CIA have cleaned house

To think of another 4 years of Trump and a follow up with 8 years of a JD Vance presidency, the US would be back on track as a dominating world power, removing the many spiders webs of Barrack Obama

Hard to believe social media was on lock down censoring conservatives, Facebook, Twitter, etc

Elon Musk at this point is a hero for buying Twitter, add to that Truth Social, and the leftist agenda's control of the town square was destroyed!

 

[JulieB67]

The truth of many things including Jan 6th will be exposed once the Republicans take the white house and the FBI and CIA have cleaned house

That's what I'm hoping as well. My brother showed me some footage at one point and it seemed as if many were being let into the building to begin with. Very strange. The entire thing just felt off to me.

 

[Truth7t7]

That's what I'm hoping as well. My brother showed me some footage at one point and it seemed as if many were being let into the building to begin with. Very strange. The entire thing just felt off to me.

True, untold capitol video surveillance has been released by republican speakers McCarthy and Johnson showing peaceful attendees being led by capitol police on white house tours that represented the vast majority

The democratic run Jan 6th committe intentionally withheld this from the public creating a false narrative, only showing the vast "minority of attendees" that were criminal thugs and vandals showing the clips over and over in the leftist MSM

Nancy Pelosi was in charge of capitol police on Jan 6th, and she denied President Trumps offer of the National guard for added security

FBI director Christopher Wray rejected answering the question of congress when asked if the FBI had assets planted within the capitol crowd?

Ray Epps was accused of being a FBI asset, he incited the crowd to enter the capitol building and he was initially on the FBI's most wanted list for the Jan 6th event then removed, after much public outcry he was charged and took a pleadeal on one misdemeanor charge and probation and he never showed up in a courtroom?

 

[QvQ]

I am a Democrat voting for a Democrat who is endorsed by a Democrat.
Translation:
I am currently a registered Republican voting for Trump who is endorsed by RFK
Hello?
The old Bush Republican Party was taken over by the Moderate Democrats back in Tea Party Days.
That is why Trump is so popular.
"I didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party LEFT me."

The collusion between the war hawk wing of the old Republican Party (Cheney) and the Far Left (Harris) is an interesting development in our shifting coalitions of political views.
It is an ill wind that blows no man any good.

 

[JulieB67]

Nancy Pelosi was in charge of capitol police on Jan 6th, and she denied President Trumps offer of the National guard for added security

Yes, I've seen that as well.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, I've seen that as well.

Trump 2024, MAGA

 

[Valletta]

That's what I'm hoping as well. My brother showed me some footage at one point and it seemed as if many were being let into the building to begin with. Very strange. The entire thing just felt off to me.

Yes, you could see in that portion the people walked right past the guards. And there was a short guard waving people toward the Capitol.